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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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additional july 8 1947

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a flying disk has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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your host jimmy church what is cracking

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yeah man what a great week we've got

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always great you know but but this week

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the greatest of all weeks because

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the world premiere of laurie wagner

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we've got a lot to do tonight follow me

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let's get to the breaking news getting

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everybody puts up their christmas lights

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i did i i did i was busy all i i had no

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dollar quarter and began testing and

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all right he's got his other company

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square he's gotta run both companies

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he's been running both companies you you

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there you go all right moving on

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u.s scientists now okay i need you to

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listen to every word that i am about to

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the us scientists who created the first

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the super computer came up with a c

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they found it was able to find

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fiction movie i know but i'm not making

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any of this up

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all of this was published in the

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physicists detect

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an elusive ghost particle that's right

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in the large hadron collider for the

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very first time that's right neutrinos

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have now been detected not just at the

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but in any particle collider prior to

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this project no sign of neutrinos has

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neutrinos are actually everywhere

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they're one of the most abundant

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they carry no charge and have almost

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they barely interact with it at all

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billions of the things are streaming

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to a neutrino the rest of the universe

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does not exist

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that's why they are known as

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ghost particles

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they're expecting that the third

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observing run at the large hadron

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collider will produce 200 billion

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electron neutrinos 6 trillion mulan

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neutrinos and 9 billion tau neutrinos

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and their

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anti neutrinos

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since we've only detected around

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10

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tau neutrinos total to date

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this is a pretty big deal

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yeah

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it's like

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they're proving that the afterlife

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exists

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astronomers have found a new gas giant

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exoplanet with the shortest known orbit

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this world takes just 16 hours

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to circle its star

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that's right

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a year

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that lasts

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just 16 hours

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the newly announced exoplanet belongs to

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a category scientist referred to as hot

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jupiters

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which orbit much closer to their stars

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than our jupiter hence the nickname

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although astronomers have identified

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more than 400 hot jupiters to date

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researchers say none are quite like the

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new discovery which is designated toi

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2109

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b

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the dictionary

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merriam webster just announced its word

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of the year

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and it is

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wait for it

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vaccine

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the word was selected based on lookup

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data

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notable spikes

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and year over year increases in searches

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vaccine

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let's get this show cracking happy

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birthday to today the one

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the only

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seriously anna ferris

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anna ferris today is 45. i've never met

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anna ferris i would like to meet anna

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ferris though

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is she real

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she real she's amazing anna ferris is 45

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today vin scully

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94 years old today

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chuck mangione today

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81 feels so good

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man couldn't escape that song in what

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1977

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jennifer batten the guitar great

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today is 64 years old michael jackson

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jeff beck i was going to post a picture

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uh i should have done it of jennifer and

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i it's a good one too anyway

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and uh fate or not chuckles

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today

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montrose

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1947 and 2012 died at the age of 65.

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ronnie was one of the most influential

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guitarists in music

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he led montrose

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and gamma

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bad motor scooter

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he also performed with van morrison

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herbie hancock poscags edgar winter gary

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wright and sammy hagar

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the first montrose album has been as

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cited as

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america's answer to led zeppelin

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during his 2009 tour ronnie revealed

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that he had fought cancer for the

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previous two years but he was healthy

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once again

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he continued to tour until his death

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from a self-inflicted gunshot wound on

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march 3rd 2012.

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happy birthday ronnie on this day in

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history

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richard bird

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and three companions

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make the first flight over the south

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pole flying from their base on the ross

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ice shelf to the pole and back

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in 18 hours in 41 minutes

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on this day in 1929 here's your fader

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don't ask me how i know this stuff but

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here's your fader fact

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in mid 18th century france

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eating potatoes was considered cruel and

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unusual punishment

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potatoes were thought of as feed for

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livestock and they were believed to

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cause leprosy in humans

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the fear was so widespread that the

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french passed a law banning potatoes

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then they invented french fries 10 years

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later

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go figure

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that

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is your fader fact tonight very special

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presentation

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because today

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is the world premiere for extraordinary

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the revelations we've got director john

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sumple with us tonight

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we have la marzulli the the author

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the researcher the host the director la

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marzulli is with us tonight later on

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tonight it's also the world premiere

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of lori wagner

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that's right tomorrow night jesse

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ventura was supposed to be here he has

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rescheduled for next week so

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i

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travel

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and then thursday is another fader night

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with open lines all night long

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what a great week on fade to black i'm

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in a great mood

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and it is cold outside i'm drinking warm

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coffee it's all good taylor's gonna tate

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who posted that

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you know what i've been watching oh okay

425
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let me get to uh uh

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river moon coffee river moon wellness

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fade to black blend game changer blend

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links are over at jimmychurchradio.com

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i have now

430
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watched three times

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in three weeks

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and

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i've i've gone back

434
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and

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film is comedic genius

436
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from from start to finish beginning to

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00:24:01,590 --> 00:23:59,760
end there are some lines in that movie

438
00:24:03,430 --> 00:24:01,600
that that i think are really going to

439
00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:03,440
stand the test of time

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00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,390
haters

441
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:16,710
they hate us because they anus

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tater's gonna tape that's awesome that's

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awesome

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oh man

445
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:28,960
the interview

446
00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:31,440
i can't stop watching the film it's uh

447
00:24:43,029 --> 00:24:41,350
eminem eminem scene in that movie eminem

448
00:24:44,470 --> 00:24:43,039
that that should have won an academy

449
00:24:48,549 --> 00:24:44,480
award

450
00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:48,559
that scene eminem deserved an oscar

451
00:24:52,310 --> 00:24:50,000
for that scene

452
00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:52,320
i'm i'm not i'm not in any way holding

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back

454
00:24:58,789 --> 00:24:55,120
i'm not

455
00:25:04,630 --> 00:25:01,830
all right all right anyway

456
00:25:09,190 --> 00:25:06,870
so in the breaking news

457
00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:09,200
i told you about the newly discovered

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00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:15,600
exoplanet that has a 16 hour year

459
00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:22,470
i've thought about this all day today

460
00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:24,880
but in fact

461
00:25:29,669 --> 00:25:27,679
i think about the scenario all the time

462
00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:29,679
and i bring it up on the show i really

463
00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:36,310
time scales you know and and

464
00:25:41,190 --> 00:25:37,840
any other

465
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:41,200
the the time scale that we have

466
00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:43,200
on planet earth

467
00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:47,600
is hours it's hours and hours alone

468
00:25:52,230 --> 00:25:50,640
okay there may be there probably is out

469
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there in the universe somewhere maybe

470
00:25:56,149 --> 00:25:53,200
even

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in our milky way galaxy there may be

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00:26:00,310 --> 00:25:57,760
another planet

473
00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:00,320
like ours that

474
00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:03,760
exactly 365 days a year

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00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:04,799
right

476
00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:06,400
going around their sun okay it's

477
00:26:11,909 --> 00:26:09,200
possible and that the the rotation you

478
00:26:14,549 --> 00:26:11,919
know they have a 24-hour day while that

479
00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:14,559
is going on it's possible

480
00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:17,200
it's very likely that it

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00:26:21,269 --> 00:26:18,960
that exists out there

482
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:21,279
it's a numbers game but for the most

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00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:23,200
part let's just

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00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:26,559
stop here and and think about

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00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:30,799
our 365 day year forget about leap year

486
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forget about all of that in our 24 hour

487
00:26:39,990 --> 00:26:35,919
thing with the moon and how all of that

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00:26:42,789 --> 00:26:40,000
works that's ours that's our

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00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:42,799
time scale

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00:26:45,909 --> 00:26:44,960
that's our year

491
00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:45,919
right

492
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:48,320
christmas day is over you gotta wait

493
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another year for christmas

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gotta wait 365 right your birthday

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right you got to wait a year

496
00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:08,149
right what happens

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00:27:11,750 --> 00:27:09,039
when

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a yearly cycle

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the entire concept of time is the same

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right

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00:27:29,669 --> 00:27:25,279
if you're on that planet and you're

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going around that that sun

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in 16 hours

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it's it's the same it's just at a

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different speed in that

506
00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:46,080
what i mean by that is sure like

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this planet may have a 16 hour a year

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but that is based on our time scale

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00:27:56,950 --> 00:27:55,919
in that you know our hours minutes and

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seconds

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00:28:03,990 --> 00:28:00,080
are based on our earth's rotation of 24

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hours in each day and of course 365 of

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those to go around our sun for our year

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that's our concept of what a year is

515
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but that doesn't apply to their year

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right their hours minutes and seconds

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are not the same as hours

518
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even if they call them hours minutes and

519
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now

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think about it this way

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what if they are checking us out

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right

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and they're tripping

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00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:44,919
they're tripping on our

525
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extremely

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long year

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right

528
00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:52,240
you know they're they're like you know

529
00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:54,000
the the newspaper

530
00:28:59,190 --> 00:28:56,480
the the the headlines

531
00:29:01,590 --> 00:28:59,200
newly discovered exoplanet

532
00:29:08,470 --> 00:29:03,190
has a year

533
00:29:10,830 --> 00:29:08,480
that that they they they go around 365

534
00:29:14,950 --> 00:29:10,840
times two of

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00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:14,960
us how long that is how

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00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:22,470
do you get do you understand

537
00:29:25,510 --> 00:29:24,399
i know you do

538
00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:25,520
so

539
00:29:29,110 --> 00:29:27,279
now let's get inside of this for a

540
00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:29,120
second

541
00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:32,080
let's get inside of this

542
00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:35,760
what if we could see

543
00:29:42,149 --> 00:29:38,080
them living

544
00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:43,510
year

545
00:29:49,590 --> 00:29:46,880
16 hours how fast is that planet going

546
00:29:52,870 --> 00:29:49,600
how fast

547
00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:52,880
it's ripping right okay

548
00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:56,159
in that ours is taking 365 days at 16

549
00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:58,240
hours so it's like whoop and we haven't

550
00:30:04,230 --> 00:30:01,039
even moved a day

551
00:30:10,310 --> 00:30:07,190
if we could see them

552
00:30:13,029 --> 00:30:10,320
what would we see

553
00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:13,039
we would see

554
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,070
we wouldn't see movement

555
00:30:28,710 --> 00:30:26,389
they are living that year that same vibe

556
00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:28,720
in 16 hours

557
00:30:33,669 --> 00:30:31,039
i don't think we would see them move

558
00:30:35,909 --> 00:30:33,679
if we if you and i if we stepped on

559
00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:35,919
their planet we're videotaping you know

560
00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:37,760
from the outside we're still in our time

561
00:30:42,870 --> 00:30:40,799
zone right on our ship we're living on

562
00:30:46,389 --> 00:30:42,880
on earth time but you go back into that

563
00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:47,510
right

564
00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:50,960
what would it and and how would we be

565
00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:53,039
right

566
00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:55,760
so we need to think about that for a

567
00:31:00,870 --> 00:30:57,360
second

568
00:31:03,029 --> 00:31:00,880
and as we are trying to make contact

569
00:31:05,350 --> 00:31:03,039
right we we are reaching we are trying

570
00:31:06,310 --> 00:31:05,360
and we wonder why we can't see or can

571
00:31:11,590 --> 00:31:06,320
see

572
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:11,600
and quick and in and out

573
00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:13,440
that is what i have been talking about

574
00:31:17,190 --> 00:31:15,120
when i keep talking about they could be

575
00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:17,200
living at a different time scale think

576
00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:19,440
about radio signals

577
00:31:25,909 --> 00:31:22,320
television signals communication signals

578
00:31:27,509 --> 00:31:25,919
running at a completely different time

579
00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:27,519
scale

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00:31:33,669 --> 00:31:30,720
it's gibberish it would be noise

581
00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:33,679
to us and then we would have to figure

582
00:31:37,350 --> 00:31:35,679
out their time scale we would have to

583
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figure out

584
00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:39,120
the rate it's

585
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it's mind-boggling and we think we

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understand what's going on

587
00:31:48,149 --> 00:31:46,720
think about that 16-hour year

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wow

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i'm your host jimmy church this is fade

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to black tonight

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a very special presentation because

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tonight is the world premiere of

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extraordinary the revelations coming up

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next we have director john sumple

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later on at the top of the hour la

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marzulli is stopping by and then later

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on tonight it is also the world premiere

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of lori wagner

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i'm your host jimmy church i want to

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remind everybody tomorrow night jesse

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when i come back

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director john sumple joins us stay with

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church radio

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welcome back fade to black i'm your host

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jimmy church i'm very excited very

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special day today it is the world

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premiere

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for extraordinary the revelations and uh

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we've got a full show tonight we have

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director john sumple with us

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00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:29,200
at the top of the hour la marzulli is

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stopping by and then later on tonight

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it's my second world premiere

711
00:37:40,310 --> 00:37:35,040
lori wagner

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00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:40,320
very excited about that and uh

713
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:42,960
let's uh get straight to it uh this is a

714
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:44,640
very important day i'm very excited

715
00:37:48,950 --> 00:37:46,000
about the film

716
00:37:50,069 --> 00:37:48,960
i was able to uh go to uh the premiere

717
00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:50,079
premier

718
00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:52,800
uh at the pasadena international film

719
00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:54,560
festival we had the full cast and crew

720
00:37:58,870 --> 00:37:57,040
there that night including director john

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00:38:00,790 --> 00:37:58,880
sumple and you're back with us john how

722
00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:00,800
you doing man how you feeling

723
00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:02,960
well my head's spinning a little bit

724
00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:05,119
from uh what you were sharing in the

725
00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:06,240
last

726
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:07,200
segment

727
00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:08,880
uh your show

728
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:11,119
in that in that space

729
00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:13,680
is the longest show they've ever heard

730
00:38:18,390 --> 00:38:16,640
how is that possible this guy's on for

731
00:38:19,750 --> 00:38:18,400
weeks yes

732
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:19,760
yeah that's it

733
00:38:23,589 --> 00:38:22,240
isn't that just when you get into those

734
00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:23,599
concepts

735
00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:26,160
and you start to think about that you

736
00:38:30,829 --> 00:38:28,240
can't really argue

737
00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:30,839
that that has to be the way that it is

738
00:38:39,030 --> 00:38:34,960
right and it and and we are trying to

739
00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:41,030
they're getting those i love lucy

740
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:43,599
episodes right from the 1950s

741
00:38:47,829 --> 00:38:46,480
right and and either they're freeze

742
00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:47,839
framed

743
00:38:53,589 --> 00:38:51,440
if if they're able to decode it at all

744
00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:53,599
or it's uber but they would have to

745
00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:56,240
figure out our time scales

746
00:39:02,550 --> 00:38:59,280
right and and would would all of those

747
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:02,560
uh going back to uh i want to talk about

748
00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:04,320
the film but you just brought up this

749
00:39:07,589 --> 00:39:06,640
just amazing point when when stephen

750
00:39:11,109 --> 00:39:07,599
hawking

751
00:39:13,589 --> 00:39:11,119
uh kept warning us you don't want to be

752
00:39:15,589 --> 00:39:13,599
uh letting those those aliens know that

753
00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:15,599
we're here they could have bad

754
00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:18,320
intentions they would have to figure out

755
00:39:22,950 --> 00:39:20,960
what we just because we would have to

756
00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:22,960
figure out what they're sending us

757
00:39:30,069 --> 00:39:26,000
right we would have to decode all of it

758
00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:30,079
from a point of not knowing anything

759
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:32,079
right so is it coming across to us is

760
00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:33,119
noise

761
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:35,040
right it's like in contact the movie

762
00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:36,880
contact the way they had to figure out

763
00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:38,720
the signal they had to figure out the

764
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:41,440
noise what does this noise mean

765
00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:43,040
and you finally you know maybe that's

766
00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:45,440
all that's going on for the last several

767
00:39:49,510 --> 00:39:47,359
thousand years is we're just each side

768
00:39:51,349 --> 00:39:49,520
is trying to figure out the noise

769
00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:51,359
we just haven't gotten there yet

770
00:39:56,150 --> 00:39:52,640
i mean

771
00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:56,160
if if we are trying to

772
00:40:02,230 --> 00:39:58,480
reach out and communicate shake hands

773
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:05,550
we are doing it to another

774
00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:07,200
extraterrestrial intelligent

775
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:08,480
civilization

776
00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:10,480
that is at a different time scale and

777
00:40:13,670 --> 00:40:12,000
even if

778
00:40:16,309 --> 00:40:13,680
they were close

779
00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:16,319
right i mean close it still would be

780
00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:18,960
whack right yeah we we have a tendency

781
00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:21,040
to make everything our

782
00:40:24,550 --> 00:40:22,240
metrics

783
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:24,560
so you know time is linear for us for

784
00:40:27,990 --> 00:40:26,560
them it may not be it may be dimensional

785
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:28,000
they may be able to travel back and

786
00:40:32,470 --> 00:40:30,400
forth and up and down and inside and out

787
00:40:34,790 --> 00:40:32,480
and sideways and they don't understand

788
00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:34,800
this linear concept that's just how we

789
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:37,680
measure time and that's kind of our

790
00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:40,240
preset is this is what we live in we

791
00:40:46,710 --> 00:40:44,560
measure linear time yeah when we say

792
00:40:48,390 --> 00:40:46,720
it's it's this fundamental

793
00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:48,400
we're freaking out

794
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:52,880
on their 16 hour year right and we're

795
00:40:59,270 --> 00:40:57,040
just like oh my god i mean 16 hours

796
00:41:01,910 --> 00:40:59,280
right

797
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:01,920
the opposite is the same

798
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:04,720
they would be freaking out on our 365

799
00:41:09,670 --> 00:41:06,400
days they wouldn't have any way to wrap

800
00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:09,680
their head around that no no not at all

801
00:41:12,310 --> 00:41:11,440
or maybe they would because they think

802
00:41:14,309 --> 00:41:12,320
so fast

803
00:41:16,470 --> 00:41:14,319
[Laughter]

804
00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:16,480
they're one step ahead quite a bit

805
00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:18,960
quite often i started to do the math on

806
00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:21,280
that and i started to think about it

807
00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:24,319
and and then i just i let it go because

808
00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:26,800
it gets it gets pretty heavy

809
00:41:33,349 --> 00:41:30,000
but just go with 16 hours and just

810
00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:33,359
roughly double that to a day 24 hours

811
00:41:38,470 --> 00:41:35,680
and then start to instead of 32 hours

812
00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:38,480
but just start to

813
00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:40,079
it oh

814
00:41:45,829 --> 00:41:43,440
the math gets crazy

815
00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:45,839
and and it goes back the opposite of

816
00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:48,720
just imagine if we were doing a 16-hour

817
00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:49,520
day

818
00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:51,760
what that would mean to our seconds and

819
00:41:56,710 --> 00:41:54,880
our minutes and and and well that's our

820
00:41:57,990 --> 00:41:56,720
measurement but maybe our our our

821
00:41:59,910 --> 00:41:58,000
24-hour

822
00:42:03,750 --> 00:41:59,920
you know

823
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:03,760
seven-day 365 is a 16-hour day in

824
00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:06,560
somebody else's match yes yes now yes

825
00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:08,960
that's exactly my point that's exactly

826
00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:11,440
my point that's exactly it it's just

827
00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:13,680
mine

828
00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:15,520
what else is mind-blowing is how you

829
00:42:20,069 --> 00:42:17,760
convince laurie wagner to come on the

830
00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:20,079
air that's also mind-blowing that was

831
00:42:26,630 --> 00:42:23,280
one week of of of just

832
00:42:27,910 --> 00:42:26,640
uh on the couch man

833
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:27,920
one week

834
00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:29,280
oh man

835
00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:31,040
what a beautiful and wonderful person

836
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:32,400
she is and

837
00:42:39,589 --> 00:42:36,960
and out of uh uh our group of friends um

838
00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:39,599
i talk to her a lot i talk to her a lot

839
00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:41,599
about all kinds of things and

840
00:42:45,510 --> 00:42:43,520
and we share uh

841
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:45,520
so much information uh going back and

842
00:42:50,710 --> 00:42:48,000
forth and it's it's on a variety of

843
00:42:51,430 --> 00:42:50,720
subjects too it's not necessarily ufos

844
00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:51,440
well

845
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:52,720
it's uh

846
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:54,640
everything is kind of ufo centric these

847
00:42:57,270 --> 00:42:55,440
days

848
00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:57,280
but we talk about everything we talk

849
00:43:02,230 --> 00:42:59,119
about cars and

850
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:02,240
and outdoor activities and and like i

851
00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:04,480
didn't know she was a paddle boarder

852
00:43:10,069 --> 00:43:06,880
right and and we were talking

853
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:10,079
yeah yeah yeah and and she goes jimmy

854
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:11,599
that's that's my life man i'm a

855
00:43:16,950 --> 00:43:14,560
paddleboard i'm just what right

856
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:16,960
and we talk paddle boards for a day so

857
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:18,880
there you go yeah you'll have to ask her

858
00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:21,440
too about her days as a uh a porsche

859
00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:24,319
racer yes race cars

860
00:43:29,349 --> 00:43:27,200
we have talked more about that and and

861
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:29,359
aircraft and planes and every time i see

862
00:43:31,990 --> 00:43:31,200
a plane she wants to see a picture of it

863
00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:32,000
and

864
00:43:38,390 --> 00:43:36,480
multifaceted she's going to be a great

865
00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:38,400
interview she's a treasure trove of

866
00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:41,040
information man see this is the thing uh

867
00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:42,640
with her

868
00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:46,800
i know that i could do a series of shows

869
00:43:51,829 --> 00:43:49,280
uh with her about whatever subjects and

870
00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:51,839
we can just talk like we do on the phone

871
00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:54,000
and i keep telling her i said lori what

872
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:56,720
we're doing right now that is the show

873
00:44:00,069 --> 00:43:58,640
right now this is this is the show we're

874
00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:00,079
just talking

875
00:44:05,030 --> 00:44:02,800
and uh i i would just love to just get

876
00:44:06,950 --> 00:44:05,040
her here in the studio

877
00:44:08,870 --> 00:44:06,960
just right next to me where we can just

878
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:08,880
talk and look into each other's eyes and

879
00:44:12,870 --> 00:44:11,040
just have our our wagner church

880
00:44:14,710 --> 00:44:12,880
conversation and it would just be

881
00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:14,720
amazing that would be an amazing series

882
00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:16,800
of shows and i know she's listening

883
00:44:23,589 --> 00:44:19,440
right now just laughing no it's not

884
00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:23,599
she's cringing she's sweating

885
00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:24,880
i think she's going to be a great guest

886
00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:26,240
i'm glad you're having her on i think

887
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:28,400
it's going to be uh that's a good first

888
00:44:33,109 --> 00:44:30,720
step into the public

889
00:44:35,109 --> 00:44:33,119
eye and and talking and now she's

890
00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:35,119
feeling pressure but i just it's a

891
00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:37,920
conversation but she's free

892
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:40,960
she'll be fine you know she is at all of

893
00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:43,280
the events and then when she's not at

894
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:45,280
all of the event she's out there

895
00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:47,520
somewhere in the world investigating

896
00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:51,920
doing something um fascinating uh things

897
00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:53,680
that she's out there doing with friends

898
00:45:00,870 --> 00:44:54,480
and

899
00:45:02,069 --> 00:45:00,880
people need to know what she is acquired

900
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:02,079
and learned

901
00:45:07,990 --> 00:45:05,440
and and certainly that's what drives her

902
00:45:10,069 --> 00:45:08,000
and and j3 films is having somebody like

903
00:45:12,069 --> 00:45:10,079
her on your team it's just

904
00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:12,079
gonna be able to do what we do without

905
00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:14,720
somebody like her putting us in touch

906
00:45:20,069 --> 00:45:17,040
easily with a single phone call or a

907
00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:20,079
single email or a whatsapp message and

908
00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:22,240
boom we're connected and because they

909
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:25,200
know lori they they accept any outreach

910
00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:27,520
from us and it always goes well we've

911
00:45:32,950 --> 00:45:30,160
never had any issues so she's she's the

912
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:32,960
conduit to all things related to

913
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:36,000
the uh ufology world for us yeah yeah

914
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:38,400
tremendously no doubt no doubt let's

915
00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:40,400
let's talk some extraordinary uh the

916
00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:45,190
okay here's the first question

917
00:45:50,069 --> 00:45:47,200
do you remember how long ago you

918
00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:50,079
contacted me about the film

919
00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:52,000
oh boy

920
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:53,440
i i thought about it today and i

921
00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:54,960
couldn't i couldn't come up with a date

922
00:45:58,470 --> 00:45:56,640
i didn't want to look it up

923
00:46:00,870 --> 00:45:58,480
i didn't want to go to email it's been

924
00:46:03,589 --> 00:46:00,880
over a year oh certainly

925
00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:03,599
yeah it's been yeah it's been a while

926
00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:10,790
yes he would um uh

927
00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:13,280
this is this is the thing

928
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:15,920
it's a premiering tonight

929
00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:18,240
and when you start a project like this

930
00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:20,000
and you've done many films but when you

931
00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:22,240
start a project like this getting to

932
00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:24,960
this point is

933
00:46:29,349 --> 00:46:26,640
is something that

934
00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:29,359
for most filmmakers never happens

935
00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:31,920
right they start a project and and

936
00:46:35,589 --> 00:46:34,079
things just happen to the project

937
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:35,599
whatever it is

938
00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:38,800
um it's it's the rare thing

939
00:46:44,470 --> 00:46:41,040
where the film gets done it gets

940
00:46:46,150 --> 00:46:44,480
finished and it actually has its world

941
00:46:48,390 --> 00:46:46,160
premiere and that's what you're doing

942
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:48,400
tonight how does that make you feel

943
00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:50,720
it's it's a very rewarding process

944
00:46:54,309 --> 00:46:52,480
because when you think about the journey

945
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:54,319
of any film you're starting with

946
00:46:59,109 --> 00:46:56,560
pre-production which is what is the

947
00:47:01,109 --> 00:46:59,119
story going to be who do we need for it

948
00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:01,119
and that's heavy lifting and then you

949
00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:04,160
move into production a very short sprint

950
00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:06,319
but still a lot of work that's done in

951
00:47:09,829 --> 00:47:07,839
the two two to three weeks that you

952
00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:09,839
might be doing the shoot and then you're

953
00:47:15,109 --> 00:47:12,960
in the the long term play because we are

954
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:15,119
nights and weekend warriors this isn't a

955
00:47:18,790 --> 00:47:17,520
full-time gig for us so the work that we

956
00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:18,800
do in post

957
00:47:23,589 --> 00:47:21,119
uh takes months because there's you know

958
00:47:27,190 --> 00:47:23,599
i'm i'm in different parts of the world

959
00:47:29,910 --> 00:47:27,200
as a nomadic traveler and my editor is

960
00:47:32,710 --> 00:47:29,920
patrick lomantini is based in

961
00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:32,720
la so everything that we do is uh

962
00:47:38,630 --> 00:47:35,680
sharing via sharing screens and and

963
00:47:40,390 --> 00:47:38,640
clips and back and forth communication

964
00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:40,400
so that journey is a long journey to get

965
00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:41,920
it to the point where it's it's

966
00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:44,079
premierable as a festival cut then

967
00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:45,680
there's the final cut

968
00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:47,520
then there is the promotion that we've

969
00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:49,839
been doing for the last three months and

970
00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:52,319
then finally boom we reached this day

971
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:55,200
and it's a big exhale knowing that all

972
00:47:59,430 --> 00:47:57,359
the work that and it's it's like three

973
00:48:01,510 --> 00:47:59,440
years of work leading to this point and

974
00:48:04,230 --> 00:48:01,520
to know that it's it's now going to be

975
00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:04,240
available for all to see is is very

976
00:48:09,190 --> 00:48:06,400
rewarding part of the process

977
00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:09,200
now something uh what i consider very

978
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:10,880
rare

979
00:48:15,589 --> 00:48:13,040
the exception to the rule is

980
00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:15,599
extraordinary the revelations

981
00:48:18,950 --> 00:48:17,760
got onto the festival circuit

982
00:48:21,670 --> 00:48:18,960
and

983
00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:21,680
i can't think

984
00:48:29,109 --> 00:48:25,520
of another film in our sphere uh that

985
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:29,119
did that and it was accepted and not

986
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:32,160
once not twice but 18 times uh

987
00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:36,079
internationally uh uh winning four

988
00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:38,160
uh best documentary awards and i don't

989
00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:40,480
think those awards are finished yet

990
00:48:47,109 --> 00:48:44,640
but but that had to surprise you we know

991
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:47,119
it it was a great film in that we were

992
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:48,400
happy with it

993
00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:50,480
but to see the acceptance out there with

994
00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:52,480
the normies right

995
00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:55,440
right with with the real world

996
00:48:59,109 --> 00:48:56,480
uh

997
00:49:02,069 --> 00:48:59,119
what does that tell you about this film

998
00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:02,079
i i think what this one has much more

999
00:49:06,309 --> 00:49:04,480
bra of a broad appeal than our other two

1000
00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:06,319
films because it touches on things that

1001
00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:07,440
i think that

1002
00:49:11,670 --> 00:49:09,599
appeal to people

1003
00:49:13,270 --> 00:49:11,680
across the entire spectrum when it comes

1004
00:49:15,910 --> 00:49:13,280
to ufology other ones were a little bit

1005
00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:15,920
more specific to individuals but this is

1006
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:17,280
much broader

1007
00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:20,079
so uh i i think it it it provides a

1008
00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:22,480
snapshot of of the current state of

1009
00:49:25,109 --> 00:49:24,240
affairs but also takes a look back in

1010
00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:25,119
time

1011
00:49:30,069 --> 00:49:27,760
and i think that it is being

1012
00:49:31,910 --> 00:49:30,079
what surprised us is we said let's take

1013
00:49:34,309 --> 00:49:31,920
a chance and submit to

1014
00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:34,319
festivals overseas so we've been picked

1015
00:49:41,109 --> 00:49:37,760
up in france and in in england and

1016
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:41,119
uh gosh a couple other countries africa

1017
00:49:46,309 --> 00:49:44,240
in uh australia so the fact that there

1018
00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:46,319
are countries that you wouldn't expect

1019
00:49:51,829 --> 00:49:49,200
to accept a film like this and they are

1020
00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:51,839
is is a testament we we had more than a

1021
00:49:55,589 --> 00:49:53,200
50

1022
00:49:57,270 --> 00:49:55,599
uh success rate which is unheard of with

1023
00:49:59,829 --> 00:49:57,280
festival submissions that is just

1024
00:50:03,109 --> 00:49:59,839
unheard of it's it's a very difficult

1025
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:03,119
and very competitive world um there are

1026
00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:05,280
so many films that are made especially

1027
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:07,440
independently where

1028
00:50:10,790 --> 00:50:09,119
they are trying to get submissions and

1029
00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:10,800
they don't get in there's there's too

1030
00:50:15,670 --> 00:50:13,119
much there's too much out there

1031
00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:15,680
and that doesn't happen but it did over

1032
00:50:20,549 --> 00:50:18,000
and over again with extraordinary the

1033
00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:20,559
revelations which says to me

1034
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:23,680
that the story that you and jack came up

1035
00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:25,440
with you guys are the principal writers

1036
00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:26,400
here

1037
00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:29,040
and you came up with a concept that you

1038
00:50:32,309 --> 00:50:30,640
presented to me

1039
00:50:34,790 --> 00:50:32,319
early on i said

1040
00:50:37,349 --> 00:50:34,800
if you can pull that off

1041
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:37,359
yes because i felt

1042
00:50:41,750 --> 00:50:39,760
that this that the job of this film

1043
00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:41,760
would be to reach out beyond the

1044
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:44,240
community which is what all filmmakers

1045
00:50:48,710 --> 00:50:46,000
want you know get outside of your you

1046
00:50:50,710 --> 00:50:48,720
know but but i felt that this was a real

1047
00:50:53,910 --> 00:50:50,720
opportunity for that

1048
00:50:56,069 --> 00:50:53,920
uh and i think that has been achieved

1049
00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:56,079
did you set out to do that from the

1050
00:50:59,829 --> 00:50:57,119
beginning

1051
00:51:02,870 --> 00:50:59,839
absolutely it was one of the things that

1052
00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:02,880
we we have tried to do with uh with our

1053
00:51:07,670 --> 00:51:04,800
kind of mantra is to reach the widest

1054
00:51:10,630 --> 00:51:07,680
audience possible and that right away

1055
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:10,640
says we don't want to pander content to

1056
00:51:15,109 --> 00:51:12,319
a target audience because that's what

1057
00:51:17,510 --> 00:51:15,119
they want to see we want to present a

1058
00:51:19,829 --> 00:51:17,520
wide variety of information to an

1059
00:51:21,670 --> 00:51:19,839
audience that might not be exposed to

1060
00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:21,680
this and when they do see it it's

1061
00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:23,920
digestible it's not like you're you're

1062
00:51:26,309 --> 00:51:25,040
you're putting them in the middle of

1063
00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:26,319
something where they're like whoa this

1064
00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:28,640
this is so far out there this this i

1065
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:30,720
don't get this i think that anybody who

1066
00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:32,880
sits down to watch this film from the

1067
00:51:37,109 --> 00:51:34,880
very beginning they will be engaged

1068
00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:37,119
right away and they will feel like

1069
00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:39,680
they're going on a journey through time

1070
00:51:43,829 --> 00:51:41,520
taking from the big bang

1071
00:51:45,510 --> 00:51:43,839
all the way to the present day and the

1072
00:51:47,670 --> 00:51:45,520
way that we present the information is

1073
00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:47,680
it fills in a lot of blanks it asks a

1074
00:51:52,069 --> 00:51:50,000
ton more questions if it's new territory

1075
00:51:53,349 --> 00:51:52,079
for you you're going to be intrigued by

1076
00:51:54,549 --> 00:51:53,359
some of the things that are brought up

1077
00:51:56,470 --> 00:51:54,559
in this film because you probably

1078
00:51:58,069 --> 00:51:56,480
haven't heard of it before and if you

1079
00:52:00,549 --> 00:51:58,079
have heard of everything that's in this

1080
00:52:01,990 --> 00:52:00,559
film then you're way ahead of the

1081
00:52:03,349 --> 00:52:02,000
way ahead of the curve because there's

1082
00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:03,359
not there's a few things in here that

1083
00:52:07,750 --> 00:52:05,760
even people who are pros in in the field

1084
00:52:09,910 --> 00:52:07,760
have said i've never seen information

1085
00:52:13,030 --> 00:52:09,920
presented quite in this way before it's

1086
00:52:15,670 --> 00:52:13,040
it's brilliant so that that we felt a

1087
00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:15,680
tremendous amount of accomplishment with

1088
00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:17,920
is how it's been received by people who

1089
00:52:21,829 --> 00:52:20,319
are not only filmmakers but also people

1090
00:52:25,910 --> 00:52:21,839
have been doing the deep dive research

1091
00:52:29,430 --> 00:52:25,920
for decades now i think a good gauge

1092
00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:29,440
for what you just said was at the

1093
00:52:34,390 --> 00:52:32,240
pasadena international film festival one

1094
00:52:37,270 --> 00:52:34,400
of the representatives for the festival

1095
00:52:38,950 --> 00:52:37,280
was there and came up to do the q and a

1096
00:52:41,030 --> 00:52:38,960
with you and jack

1097
00:52:42,309 --> 00:52:41,040
and uh and lori

1098
00:52:43,589 --> 00:52:42,319
and the

1099
00:52:45,190 --> 00:52:43,599
um

1100
00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:45,200
the impression

1101
00:52:50,230 --> 00:52:47,599
that he had

1102
00:52:53,030 --> 00:52:50,240
i could tell he knew nothing about this

1103
00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:53,040
subject absolutely nothing

1104
00:52:57,829 --> 00:52:55,760
and he was able to and i love it when i

1105
00:52:59,589 --> 00:52:57,839
go into a documentary where i don't know

1106
00:53:01,270 --> 00:52:59,599
what's happening i just watched a german

1107
00:53:02,630 --> 00:53:01,280
documentary series

1108
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:02,640
the other day

1109
00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:04,319
um

1110
00:53:07,109 --> 00:53:05,680
german right

1111
00:53:09,430 --> 00:53:07,119
i knew nothing

1112
00:53:13,910 --> 00:53:09,440
but you observe you know and i like that

1113
00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:13,920
moment and that moment happened with him

1114
00:53:19,190 --> 00:53:17,280
and i could tell by his reaction that

1115
00:53:20,230 --> 00:53:19,200
i think we knocked this one out of the

1116
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:20,240
park

1117
00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:22,640
yeah that was that was to me probably

1118
00:53:27,349 --> 00:53:24,480
one of the the

1119
00:53:29,430 --> 00:53:27,359
biggest uh acknowledgments

1120
00:53:30,870 --> 00:53:29,440
for the work that we had done and he was

1121
00:53:33,430 --> 00:53:30,880
he was a film professor at one of the

1122
00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:33,440
local schools in southern california and

1123
00:53:36,950 --> 00:53:35,359
he came up and his very first thing he

1124
00:53:39,670 --> 00:53:36,960
said was this was a master class in

1125
00:53:41,670 --> 00:53:39,680
documentary filmmaking he said you know

1126
00:53:43,829 --> 00:53:41,680
you covered a tremendous amount of

1127
00:53:45,829 --> 00:53:43,839
information in a short amount of time

1128
00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:45,839
you held the audience for the entire

1129
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:48,640
time and you spark tremendous amount of

1130
00:53:52,549 --> 00:53:50,160
questions he said he was writing notes

1131
00:53:53,750 --> 00:53:52,559
furiously and that he wanted to there's

1132
00:53:55,349 --> 00:53:53,760
things that he wanted to do more

1133
00:53:57,030 --> 00:53:55,359
research on because he felt like he

1134
00:53:58,470 --> 00:53:57,040
needed to fill in the blanks was which

1135
00:54:00,630 --> 00:53:58,480
is exactly

1136
00:54:02,150 --> 00:54:00,640
what we what we have uh

1137
00:54:04,390 --> 00:54:02,160
attempted to do from the very beginning

1138
00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:04,400
is to encourage thought encourage a

1139
00:54:08,470 --> 00:54:06,800
deeper dive encourage discussion and

1140
00:54:09,670 --> 00:54:08,480
encourage people who may have never

1141
00:54:11,109 --> 00:54:09,680
thought about this before i would

1142
00:54:13,910 --> 00:54:11,119
encourage anybody who's out there

1143
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:13,920
listening if you're already a believer

1144
00:54:17,990 --> 00:54:16,079
in in the subject matter

1145
00:54:20,549 --> 00:54:18,000
get this film and sit down with a group

1146
00:54:22,870 --> 00:54:20,559
of your friends who may not be familiar

1147
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:22,880
with this subject matter and say hey

1148
00:54:26,309 --> 00:54:24,480
let's just watch this together and at

1149
00:54:27,750 --> 00:54:26,319
the end let's have a conversation

1150
00:54:29,510 --> 00:54:27,760
because the one question you have to ask

1151
00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:29,520
when it's all over is what if this is

1152
00:54:34,069 --> 00:54:31,440
all true let's talk about it and then

1153
00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:34,079
boom you you you're stimulating a

1154
00:54:39,589 --> 00:54:36,720
conversation that is intellectual not

1155
00:54:41,829 --> 00:54:39,599
necessarily you know based on fantastic

1156
00:54:43,589 --> 00:54:41,839
elements or or did you see that footage

1157
00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:43,599
or did you see that evidence this is

1158
00:54:49,109 --> 00:54:46,079
more cerebral a much more cerebral film

1159
00:54:51,910 --> 00:54:49,119
based on a linear as we were talking

1160
00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:51,920
earlier time moving through from the big

1161
00:54:55,430 --> 00:54:53,760
bang to the current day and saying

1162
00:54:57,910 --> 00:54:55,440
here's the journey that this planet and

1163
00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:57,920
the human experience has been on for the

1164
00:55:01,910 --> 00:55:00,160
last you know several millennia and this

1165
00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:01,920
is where we are today in that process

1166
00:55:05,670 --> 00:55:03,760
and where does it go from here that's

1167
00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:05,680
the big question based on where we are

1168
00:55:09,829 --> 00:55:07,680
today where does it go from here

1169
00:55:12,230 --> 00:55:09,839
now are you uh

1170
00:55:16,150 --> 00:55:12,240
one of those wreath counters now

1171
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:16,160
are you are you is the pressure on

1172
00:55:21,349 --> 00:55:18,000
for the next film

1173
00:55:23,589 --> 00:55:21,359
and and you you've got to pass up 18.

1174
00:55:26,230 --> 00:55:23,599
now you now you want 20.

1175
00:55:28,950 --> 00:55:26,240
and there's no 22. we had 15 the last

1176
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:28,960
time and i never set out we we entered

1177
00:55:32,549 --> 00:55:30,720
the same amount of festivals

1178
00:55:34,789 --> 00:55:32,559
and we got

1179
00:55:36,309 --> 00:55:34,799
you know a better response to this film

1180
00:55:40,150 --> 00:55:36,319
and we're still waiting on a couple more

1181
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:40,160
but the uh it wasn't when we finished

1182
00:55:44,630 --> 00:55:42,480
the last film i felt we could never do

1183
00:55:46,230 --> 00:55:44,640
anything better than this this is it was

1184
00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:46,240
so well done it had the emotional

1185
00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:49,200
component it had a uh

1186
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:50,960
the people that we interviewed were so

1187
00:55:56,150 --> 00:55:53,440
thankful for the work that we were doing

1188
00:55:57,829 --> 00:55:56,160
and the caring that we put into

1189
00:55:59,510 --> 00:55:57,839
not only making the film but handling

1190
00:56:01,829 --> 00:55:59,520
their stories that was very very

1191
00:56:03,750 --> 00:56:01,839
rewarding to us but when this film was

1192
00:56:06,309 --> 00:56:03,760
done when we were watching the screening

1193
00:56:08,069 --> 00:56:06,319
that night in pasadena i turned to jack

1194
00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:08,079
he was sitting to me on my left and i

1195
00:56:12,789 --> 00:56:10,160
said this is really good and that was

1196
00:56:15,109 --> 00:56:12,799
the first time that i had watched it

1197
00:56:16,470 --> 00:56:15,119
as an audience member from start to

1198
00:56:19,190 --> 00:56:16,480
finish not as

1199
00:56:20,950 --> 00:56:19,200
the director or looking for edits or

1200
00:56:23,349 --> 00:56:20,960
flaws i just watched it to watch it i'm

1201
00:56:25,990 --> 00:56:23,359
like this plays very well and the

1202
00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:26,000
response afterward was

1203
00:56:29,109 --> 00:56:27,599
exactly what we were hoping for which

1204
00:56:31,510 --> 00:56:29,119
people were saying i need to watch this

1205
00:56:33,589 --> 00:56:31,520
film multiple times i need to show this

1206
00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:33,599
to people who've had these questions and

1207
00:56:36,789 --> 00:56:35,040
this is going to help them you know

1208
00:56:39,190 --> 00:56:36,799
better understand their current belief

1209
00:56:41,430 --> 00:56:39,200
or where they are on their journey so

1210
00:56:43,910 --> 00:56:41,440
that that's very rewarding when you set

1211
00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:43,920
out to do something in the response is

1212
00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:46,079
exactly what you were hoping for what do

1213
00:56:50,870 --> 00:56:48,240
you what's up what's up next

1214
00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:50,880
i mean i would i would imagine that you

1215
00:56:54,630 --> 00:56:52,079
have to

1216
00:56:56,789 --> 00:56:54,640
self-challenge yourself

1217
00:56:59,750 --> 00:56:56,799
extraordinary the seating

1218
00:57:00,950 --> 00:56:59,760
was great on so many levels and probably

1219
00:57:03,030 --> 00:57:00,960
for me

1220
00:57:04,470 --> 00:57:03,040
the most extreme being that it scared

1221
00:57:06,870 --> 00:57:04,480
the crap out of me

1222
00:57:09,270 --> 00:57:06,880
and there there was that element right

1223
00:57:12,309 --> 00:57:09,280
that was it was an intense film

1224
00:57:13,510 --> 00:57:12,319
um now you've got to apply that self

1225
00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:13,520
pressure

1226
00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:15,359
right you've got to challenge yourself

1227
00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:16,880
for this next one

1228
00:57:21,349 --> 00:57:18,160
yeah we we

1229
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:21,359
we feel like we've finished this trilogy

1230
00:57:25,670 --> 00:57:23,680
so to speak there may be other stories

1231
00:57:26,549 --> 00:57:25,680
that come out of this mean i think this

1232
00:57:28,470 --> 00:57:26,559
film

1233
00:57:30,710 --> 00:57:28,480
could stand as its own series it could

1234
00:57:32,470 --> 00:57:30,720
be a tv show based on the concepts that

1235
00:57:34,710 --> 00:57:32,480
are shown in this film

1236
00:57:36,549 --> 00:57:34,720
uh who knows maybe that that that comes

1237
00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:36,559
next but we do have several projects

1238
00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:38,640
that we're currently exploring and the

1239
00:57:43,030 --> 00:57:40,400
good news is we have a

1240
00:57:44,630 --> 00:57:43,040
robust pipeline of opportunities

1241
00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:44,640
but the the next one that we're looking

1242
00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:46,960
at can't talk about it in any detail yet

1243
00:57:52,789 --> 00:57:49,760
is one that is outside of this genre but

1244
00:57:55,109 --> 00:57:52,799
a significant story a a rather large

1245
00:57:57,829 --> 00:57:55,119
story we're in the process of

1246
00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:57,839
finalizing uh you know a deal that

1247
00:58:02,710 --> 00:58:00,000
secures the book rights to a book that

1248
00:58:04,870 --> 00:58:02,720
had been published a few years back that

1249
00:58:06,230 --> 00:58:04,880
could open the door to a whole different

1250
00:58:08,390 --> 00:58:06,240
audience for

1251
00:58:09,829 --> 00:58:08,400
us as filmmakers and it challenges us to

1252
00:58:11,430 --> 00:58:09,839
do something a little bit different

1253
00:58:13,670 --> 00:58:11,440
that's not to say that we're we're

1254
00:58:15,910 --> 00:58:13,680
walking away from this genre and not by

1255
00:58:19,190 --> 00:58:15,920
any means because there's way too much

1256
00:58:21,349 --> 00:58:19,200
to to further explore and and share yeah

1257
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:21,359
well this this next year i really feel

1258
00:58:27,829 --> 00:58:24,880
that 2022 is going to be a big year for

1259
00:58:30,470 --> 00:58:27,839
for contact and et and disclosure

1260
00:58:31,910 --> 00:58:30,480
and you've been a big part of that and i

1261
00:58:35,670 --> 00:58:31,920
can't

1262
00:58:37,109 --> 00:58:35,680
when you've been so fundamental to the

1263
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:37,119
community

1264
00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:38,880
now i don't think we're going to walk

1265
00:58:43,190 --> 00:58:41,520
away from it as much as hope the idea

1266
00:58:44,950 --> 00:58:43,200
would be is that we get to a point

1267
00:58:47,190 --> 00:58:44,960
because this is a nights and weekends

1268
00:58:49,190 --> 00:58:47,200
kind of operation for us that we have

1269
00:58:51,910 --> 00:58:49,200
the opportunity to do this as more of a

1270
00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:51,920
full-time uh you know endeavor and if we

1271
00:58:55,190 --> 00:58:53,680
can get to that point where we have the

1272
00:58:57,349 --> 00:58:55,200
funds supporting the projects that we're

1273
00:58:59,510 --> 00:58:57,359
working on i you know our goal would be

1274
00:59:01,270 --> 00:58:59,520
to have one film in pre-production one

1275
00:59:03,349 --> 00:59:01,280
in production and one in post you know

1276
00:59:04,870 --> 00:59:03,359
constantly which means we'll be cranking

1277
00:59:06,870 --> 00:59:04,880
out three films a year if we can get to

1278
00:59:10,390 --> 00:59:06,880
that point after you know two years that

1279
00:59:10,660 --> 00:59:10,400
would be amazing that would be awesome

1280
00:59:12,309 --> 00:59:10,670
right

1281
00:59:16,069 --> 00:59:12,319
[Laughter]

1282
00:59:17,430 --> 00:59:16,079
i and uh to think about uh

1283
00:59:21,910 --> 00:59:17,440
the

1284
00:59:25,190 --> 00:59:21,920
i've just got two minutes left i want

1285
00:59:27,349 --> 00:59:25,200
you to address this that even after uh

1286
00:59:29,990 --> 00:59:27,359
the pasadena film festival

1287
00:59:32,230 --> 00:59:30,000
uh you came back uh to the team with an

1288
00:59:34,549 --> 00:59:32,240
email like i'm

1289
00:59:37,190 --> 00:59:34,559
i've improved it i'm gonna tweak this

1290
00:59:37,910 --> 00:59:37,200
thing there's still a little bit more to

1291
00:59:39,670 --> 00:59:37,920
do

1292
00:59:40,630 --> 00:59:39,680
when you think that it's finally in the

1293
00:59:43,030 --> 00:59:40,640
can

1294
00:59:45,030 --> 00:59:43,040
but you made some subtle changes to this

1295
00:59:46,549 --> 00:59:45,040
final version that is premiering tonight

1296
00:59:48,150 --> 00:59:46,559
what did you do

1297
00:59:50,390 --> 00:59:48,160
the biggest thing was we changed some of

1298
00:59:53,270 --> 00:59:50,400
the b-roll uh we were in a race to get

1299
00:59:55,510 --> 00:59:53,280
it done for the the festival so there

1300
00:59:57,030 --> 00:59:55,520
was things that we had to say this is

1301
00:59:58,470 --> 00:59:57,040
this is where we stop

1302
01:00:00,710 --> 00:59:58,480
but b-roll

1303
01:00:02,390 --> 01:00:00,720
has changed significantly the ending is

1304
01:00:04,309 --> 01:00:02,400
is completely different as far as the

1305
01:00:06,069 --> 01:00:04,319
visuals the story the narrative is the

1306
01:00:08,870 --> 01:00:06,079
same nothing is changing the narrative

1307
01:00:11,910 --> 01:00:08,880
but the visuals and then anton patzner

1308
01:00:12,950 --> 01:00:11,920
who did the score uh enhanced several

1309
01:00:14,789 --> 01:00:12,960
areas

1310
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:14,799
we also added a lot of sound effects and

1311
01:00:18,630 --> 01:00:17,040
transitional sounds that that go along

1312
01:00:19,829 --> 01:00:18,640
with b-roll and what was happening on

1313
01:00:21,750 --> 01:00:19,839
screen so

1314
01:00:23,510 --> 01:00:21,760
sonically if you list if you watch this

1315
01:00:26,390 --> 01:00:23,520
with headphones you'll pick up on all

1316
01:00:28,309 --> 01:00:26,400
those little things uh but that it was

1317
01:00:30,390 --> 01:00:28,319
the polish it was the finishing touches

1318
01:00:31,589 --> 01:00:30,400
that we that we really wanted to dial in

1319
01:00:32,950 --> 01:00:31,599
and make it

1320
01:00:35,030 --> 01:00:32,960
even better

1321
01:00:36,150 --> 01:00:35,040
john congratulations man you made a

1322
01:00:38,470 --> 01:00:36,160
great one

1323
01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:38,480
it's uh it's time to celebrate tonight

1324
01:00:43,190 --> 01:00:41,119
and i want to thank you right now for

1325
01:00:45,510 --> 01:00:43,200
allowing me to be a part of this project

1326
01:00:47,589 --> 01:00:45,520
thank you so much thank you for being a

1327
01:00:49,109 --> 01:00:47,599
part of it we we really could not have

1328
01:00:51,510 --> 01:00:49,119
done it without you i feel like you were

1329
01:00:53,190 --> 01:00:51,520
the perfect person to voice this film

1330
01:00:54,950 --> 01:00:53,200
and we we thank you

1331
01:00:57,270 --> 01:00:54,960
wholeheartedly for that

1332
01:01:00,230 --> 01:00:57,280
go and enjoy the rest of your night hang

1333
01:01:01,829 --> 01:01:00,240
out though because later on uh lori

1334
01:01:03,030 --> 01:01:01,839
wagner is going to be joining us i don't

1335
01:01:06,069 --> 01:01:03,040
know if you know that he's listening

1336
01:01:08,230 --> 01:01:06,079
i'll talk to you john stumble director

1337
01:01:11,349 --> 01:01:08,240
john temple thank you so much john the

1338
01:01:14,230 --> 01:01:11,359
film premieres tonight we've got all of

1339
01:01:15,910 --> 01:01:14,240
the links up and if uh you click in the

1340
01:01:19,430 --> 01:01:15,920
video description box below it's right

1341
01:01:21,750 --> 01:01:19,440
there we have it throughout social media

1342
01:01:24,309 --> 01:01:21,760
coming up next after this short break l

1343
01:01:25,829 --> 01:01:24,319
a marzulli joins us then later on

1344
01:01:27,510 --> 01:01:25,839
tonight

1345
01:01:29,670 --> 01:01:27,520
lori wagner i'm your host jimmy church

1346
01:01:37,990 --> 01:01:29,680
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01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:48,950
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01:06:41,670 --> 01:06:25,250
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01:06:45,029 --> 01:06:43,349
welcome back fade to black i am your

1451
01:06:47,109 --> 01:06:45,039
host jimmy church

1452
01:06:49,109 --> 01:06:47,119
tonight is the world premiere for

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01:06:50,950 --> 01:06:49,119
extraordinary the revelations we just

1454
01:06:54,390 --> 01:06:50,960
heard from director john sumple coming

1455
01:06:56,630 --> 01:06:54,400
up next la marzulli is joining us

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01:06:58,630 --> 01:06:56,640
later on tonight lori wagner will be

1457
01:07:01,430 --> 01:06:58,640
here i want to remind everybody tomorrow

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01:07:03,670 --> 01:07:01,440
night uh william henry is with us then

1459
01:07:05,349 --> 01:07:03,680
on wednesday night nick redfern is here

1460
01:07:07,029 --> 01:07:05,359
to talk time travel

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01:07:08,549 --> 01:07:07,039
thursday night is another fader night

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01:07:09,750 --> 01:07:08,559
with open lines all night long but

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01:07:13,349 --> 01:07:09,760
tonight

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01:07:16,150 --> 01:07:13,359
la marzulli he is the author of 13 books

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01:07:18,630 --> 01:07:16,160
producer director of 21 films he has

1466
01:07:21,670 --> 01:07:18,640
been researching the ufo phenomena for

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01:07:24,150 --> 01:07:21,680
over 50 years it is considered one of

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01:07:26,710 --> 01:07:24,160
the leading authorities on the nephilim

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01:07:28,150 --> 01:07:26,720
the biblical giants and i would like to

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01:07:30,950 --> 01:07:28,160
welcome back to fade to block the one

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01:07:33,270 --> 01:07:30,960
and only l.a marzulli l.a good evening

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01:07:34,950 --> 01:07:33,280
young man

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01:07:36,950 --> 01:07:34,960
great to be here jimmy thanks for having

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01:07:39,430 --> 01:07:36,960
me i appreciate it you know i'm gonna

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01:07:41,670 --> 01:07:39,440
say this uh out of the gate la i've said

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01:07:43,029 --> 01:07:41,680
this many times over the years

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01:07:45,430 --> 01:07:43,039
but uh

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01:07:46,710 --> 01:07:45,440
a couple of decades ago when i stumbled

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01:07:51,109 --> 01:07:46,720
upon you

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01:07:53,270 --> 01:07:51,119
i thought to myself then i found my guy

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01:07:56,470 --> 01:07:53,280
and i have followed you since and you

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01:07:58,549 --> 01:07:56,480
have been an inspiration to me and i

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01:08:01,029 --> 01:07:58,559
would not be where i am today if it

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01:08:03,270 --> 01:08:01,039
wasn't for la marzulli so i want to

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01:08:04,150 --> 01:08:03,280
thank you sir for your contributions

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01:08:09,990 --> 01:08:04,160
it's

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01:08:11,910 --> 01:08:10,000
well those are incredible words i just

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01:08:12,950 --> 01:08:11,920
i'm humbled by them and i thank you for

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01:08:14,870 --> 01:08:12,960
that that's

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01:08:16,070 --> 01:08:14,880
real nice of you to say that incredible

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01:08:19,590 --> 01:08:16,080
and uh

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01:08:21,910 --> 01:08:19,600
now uh i said to you earlier today

1493
01:08:23,849 --> 01:08:21,920
i said la uh i need a sip from the

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01:08:25,189 --> 01:08:23,859
fountain of youth you're not sharing

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01:08:27,189 --> 01:08:25,199
[Laughter]

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01:08:29,910 --> 01:08:27,199
it's the water it's the water in this

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01:08:32,709 --> 01:08:29,920
canyon that's what it is it's got to be

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01:08:34,149 --> 01:08:32,719
now before we get to the film and uh and

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i want to thank you for taking the time

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01:08:40,309 --> 01:08:37,440
tonight because you're a very busy man

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01:08:41,749 --> 01:08:40,319
uh because uh you you're you're back in

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01:08:44,709 --> 01:08:41,759
california

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01:08:48,950 --> 01:08:44,719
and you're rebuilding your home

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01:08:52,070 --> 01:08:48,960
uh now i want to uh everybody la's uh

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01:08:54,470 --> 01:08:52,080
house his family home a burned down in

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01:08:58,630 --> 01:08:54,480
in the fires a couple of years ago

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01:09:00,229 --> 01:08:58,640
and uh and the community uh uh rallied

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01:09:03,430 --> 01:09:00,239
the troops and

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01:09:05,269 --> 01:09:03,440
and and and we were there for you and

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01:09:07,269 --> 01:09:05,279
that that was great that was an amazing

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01:09:09,669 --> 01:09:07,279
thing but you didn't lose your home

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01:09:11,269 --> 01:09:09,679
uh you're back and now i just want to

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01:09:13,030 --> 01:09:11,279
understand you're rebuild you're on the

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01:09:14,709 --> 01:09:13,040
old foundation you're on the you're on

1515
01:09:16,630 --> 01:09:14,719
the same home side

1516
01:09:18,309 --> 01:09:16,640
we're in the same home site

1517
01:09:20,789 --> 01:09:18,319
basically fema came in and scraped

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01:09:23,990 --> 01:09:20,799
everything and when we came in in may in

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01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:24,000
2019 the fire happened 2018 november 9.

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01:09:28,709 --> 01:09:26,560
so it's been three years right in may of

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01:09:30,789 --> 01:09:28,719
2019 is when we came back

1522
01:09:31,669 --> 01:09:30,799
after fema had scraped it

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01:09:33,430 --> 01:09:31,679
so

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01:09:35,349 --> 01:09:33,440
there was there was not a vestige of the

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01:09:37,030 --> 01:09:35,359
house everything was totally gone

1526
01:09:38,550 --> 01:09:37,040
scraped clean

1527
01:09:40,709 --> 01:09:38,560
and um

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01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:40,719
that's when i got the word you know l.a

1529
01:09:44,789 --> 01:09:43,120
the land is yours santa monica mountains

1530
01:09:46,870 --> 01:09:44,799
pick up a stone it's your ebenezer it's

1531
01:09:49,590 --> 01:09:46,880
your promised stone and so i picked up a

1532
01:09:52,470 --> 01:09:49,600
stone it's on my desk back in oklahoma

1533
01:09:54,229 --> 01:09:52,480
i'll bring it out here soon but um

1534
01:09:57,830 --> 01:09:54,239
the house is almost done almost

1535
01:09:59,830 --> 01:09:57,840
completed we used a basically a fire

1536
01:10:02,430 --> 01:09:59,840
very fire resistant method it's called

1537
01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:02,440
giga crete giga crete

1538
01:10:06,470 --> 01:10:04,960
gigacrete.com if you're interested

1539
01:10:07,830 --> 01:10:06,480
it is the home of the future there's no

1540
01:10:09,030 --> 01:10:07,840
doubt about it the installation's

1541
01:10:11,030 --> 01:10:09,040
incredible

1542
01:10:13,270 --> 01:10:11,040
it goes together very quickly i designed

1543
01:10:15,669 --> 01:10:13,280
the home i used to do that 30 years ago

1544
01:10:17,510 --> 01:10:15,679
i drew it up on a drafting table drew it

1545
01:10:19,510 --> 01:10:17,520
up a friend of mine dale kessler did the

1546
01:10:21,510 --> 01:10:19,520
engineering on it and we're off to the

1547
01:10:23,430 --> 01:10:21,520
races we're really close to finishing it

1548
01:10:25,590 --> 01:10:23,440
i mean really close maybe next week

1549
01:10:27,750 --> 01:10:25,600
we'll get occupancy we'll see uh yeah

1550
01:10:30,390 --> 01:10:27,760
congratulations and and

1551
01:10:33,110 --> 01:10:30,400
la says to me he goes dude i

1552
01:10:35,910 --> 01:10:33,120
i built the kitchen cabinets i poured

1553
01:10:42,070 --> 01:10:38,790
you're really building your own home uh

1554
01:10:45,270 --> 01:10:42,080
just uh i'm so happy for you and

1555
01:10:47,990 --> 01:10:45,280
appreciate that absolutely now uh

1556
01:10:52,229 --> 01:10:48,000
uh welcome back by the way welcome back

1557
01:10:55,030 --> 01:10:52,239
uh you've seen the film and i i felt

1558
01:10:57,830 --> 01:10:55,040
that i want your uh reaction

1559
01:10:59,750 --> 01:10:57,840
um when i was at the film festival

1560
01:11:01,030 --> 01:10:59,760
seeing it in a theater you know on the

1561
01:11:03,110 --> 01:11:01,040
big screen

1562
01:11:04,630 --> 01:11:03,120
pretty nervous right and you just kind

1563
01:11:06,870 --> 01:11:04,640
of yeah

1564
01:11:08,070 --> 01:11:06,880
you know but uh i got to the end of the

1565
01:11:11,270 --> 01:11:08,080
film and i thought

1566
01:11:13,510 --> 01:11:11,280
i think people are going to get this one

1567
01:11:14,790 --> 01:11:13,520
what was your reaction

1568
01:11:17,430 --> 01:11:14,800
well i mean look i've i've been

1569
01:11:19,669 --> 01:11:17,440
traveling in all this forever so for me

1570
01:11:21,830 --> 01:11:19,679
it was like uh putting a bow on

1571
01:11:24,390 --> 01:11:21,840
everything that we've been talking about

1572
01:11:26,790 --> 01:11:24,400
researching looking at for for decades i

1573
01:11:29,189 --> 01:11:26,800
mean you know linda moulton howe i mean

1574
01:11:32,070 --> 01:11:29,199
for instance i mean um

1575
01:11:33,110 --> 01:11:32,080
your contribution everyone who came on

1576
01:11:34,070 --> 01:11:33,120
the film

1577
01:11:35,270 --> 01:11:34,080
um

1578
01:11:36,950 --> 01:11:35,280
you know

1579
01:11:39,430 --> 01:11:36,960
basically bought

1580
01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:39,440
bought their a game

1581
01:11:42,310 --> 01:11:40,400
it's it's

1582
01:11:44,390 --> 01:11:42,320
and i love i love the editing the

1583
01:11:46,709 --> 01:11:44,400
editing is incredible by the way whoever

1584
01:11:49,189 --> 01:11:46,719
edited that it's like three thumbs up

1585
01:11:50,790 --> 01:11:49,199
it's incredible um and i only have two

1586
01:11:52,790 --> 01:11:50,800
thumbs up so you know you get the third

1587
01:11:54,950 --> 01:11:52,800
one in there right i mean the editing is

1588
01:11:57,350 --> 01:11:54,960
amazing that they're the cinematography

1589
01:11:58,870 --> 01:11:57,360
i mean just everything about the film

1590
01:12:01,830 --> 01:11:58,880
is really good and what people need to

1591
01:12:04,390 --> 01:12:01,840
understand is this is cutting edge stuff

1592
01:12:07,110 --> 01:12:04,400
um you need to watch it no matter what

1593
01:12:09,830 --> 01:12:07,120
because this is setting

1594
01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:09,840
it's setting the stage for what is

1595
01:12:12,550 --> 01:12:10,800
coming

1596
01:12:14,070 --> 01:12:12,560
and you know now but now that our

1597
01:12:16,470 --> 01:12:14,080
government like louise el was on the

1598
01:12:18,550 --> 01:12:16,480
stage your government has said that uaps

1599
01:12:20,790 --> 01:12:18,560
and other defending aero phenomena ufos

1600
01:12:22,390 --> 01:12:20,800
and identified flying objects are real

1601
01:12:23,830 --> 01:12:22,400
so

1602
01:12:25,350 --> 01:12:23,840
and in the pentagon station we have

1603
01:12:26,229 --> 01:12:25,360
off-world vehicles not made on this

1604
01:12:28,470 --> 01:12:26,239
earth

1605
01:12:29,350 --> 01:12:28,480
uh i mean the cat is out of the bag in

1606
01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:29,360
ways

1607
01:12:33,990 --> 01:12:31,440
that frankly as a researcher i never

1608
01:12:35,590 --> 01:12:34,000
thought i would see and it came down so

1609
01:12:37,750 --> 01:12:35,600
quickly and of course you guys cut back

1610
01:12:40,790 --> 01:12:37,760
into tucker carlson commander david

1611
01:12:42,630 --> 01:12:40,800
fraber if the the whole f-18 tic tac

1612
01:12:44,470 --> 01:12:42,640
shape object you know you get into that

1613
01:12:47,510 --> 01:12:44,480
that that opened the door that was the

1614
01:12:49,430 --> 01:12:47,520
pandora's box that opened this whole

1615
01:12:51,350 --> 01:12:49,440
uh floodgate of information that we're

1616
01:12:53,990 --> 01:12:51,360
getting and there are there have been

1617
01:12:56,149 --> 01:12:54,000
some lulls but it ain't over by a long

1618
01:12:58,870 --> 01:12:56,159
shot and we are going to see full

1619
01:13:00,870 --> 01:12:58,880
disclosure full disclosure at some point

1620
01:13:02,870 --> 01:13:00,880
in the near future so the film

1621
01:13:04,630 --> 01:13:02,880
the film is a must see

1622
01:13:07,430 --> 01:13:04,640
because you know there are there are

1623
01:13:09,430 --> 01:13:07,440
leading experts i mean people that have

1624
01:13:11,110 --> 01:13:09,440
dedicated their lives in some ways and

1625
01:13:13,110 --> 01:13:11,120
that i mean just think of linda moulton

1626
01:13:14,630 --> 01:13:13,120
now i mean can you imagine which that

1627
01:13:16,470 --> 01:13:14,640
woman has been through

1628
01:13:17,990 --> 01:13:16,480
let's go back you know 30 years ago in

1629
01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:18,000
strange harvest

1630
01:13:22,070 --> 01:13:19,760
it's about 30 years ago i think when she

1631
01:13:24,229 --> 01:13:22,080
came out with that film so you know i

1632
01:13:26,709 --> 01:13:24,239
mean that's that was like super cutting

1633
01:13:29,030 --> 01:13:26,719
edge that no one covered that she did an

1634
01:13:30,790 --> 01:13:29,040
incredible job on probably a shoestring

1635
01:13:33,430 --> 01:13:30,800
budget she got the film i remember

1636
01:13:35,750 --> 01:13:33,440
watching it and and just just

1637
01:13:37,350 --> 01:13:35,760
totally blown away by what i was looking

1638
01:13:39,669 --> 01:13:37,360
at of course we're talking about the the

1639
01:13:41,750 --> 01:13:39,679
cattle mutilation phenomena i mean that

1640
01:13:43,669 --> 01:13:41,760
that's that's her wheelhouse so

1641
01:13:46,070 --> 01:13:43,679
you know she's probably been called

1642
01:13:47,990 --> 01:13:46,080
every name in the book and ridiculed and

1643
01:13:50,310 --> 01:13:48,000
blah blah blah blah blah but now all of

1644
01:13:52,950 --> 01:13:50,320
a sudden you know the whole tinfoil hat

1645
01:13:54,790 --> 01:13:52,960
brigade uh we're not wearing it or we're

1646
01:13:56,149 --> 01:13:54,800
wearing it very proudly because

1647
01:14:00,630 --> 01:13:56,159
everything that we've been saying

1648
01:14:03,430 --> 01:14:00,640
true we've been you know waving the

1649
01:14:05,189 --> 01:14:03,440
flags waving our arms warning people

1650
01:14:07,750 --> 01:14:05,199
of

1651
01:14:11,110 --> 01:14:07,760
this phenomenon that it is real and like

1652
01:14:12,790 --> 01:14:11,120
dr david jacobs like john mack like

1653
01:14:14,550 --> 01:14:12,800
um i don't want to put words in people's

1654
01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:14,560
mouth but you know jalen heineck he

1655
01:14:16,709 --> 01:14:16,000
can't he's not here to defend himself

1656
01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:16,719
but

1657
01:14:21,030 --> 01:14:19,360
um you know jaylen heineck believed that

1658
01:14:23,590 --> 01:14:21,040
there was a nefarious agenda i know that

1659
01:14:25,669 --> 01:14:23,600
david dr david jacobs uh believes the

1660
01:14:27,030 --> 01:14:25,679
same thing that this thing has a

1661
01:14:28,470 --> 01:14:27,040
nefarious

1662
01:14:30,070 --> 01:14:28,480
agenda to it

1663
01:14:31,110 --> 01:14:30,080
you guys present

1664
01:14:33,189 --> 01:14:31,120
it's like

1665
01:14:35,590 --> 01:14:33,199
you're at the doorstep and you open the

1666
01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:35,600
door now you're in the room well the

1667
01:14:37,990 --> 01:14:36,960
room's got

1668
01:14:40,229 --> 01:14:38,000
you know

1669
01:14:41,030 --> 01:14:40,239
corridors leading to other rooms right

1670
01:14:43,430 --> 01:14:41,040
and

1671
01:14:46,550 --> 01:14:43,440
that's where where it has to get to at

1672
01:14:49,430 --> 01:14:46,560
some point because

1673
01:14:51,669 --> 01:14:49,440
most of the public i think believes

1674
01:14:55,270 --> 01:14:51,679
the phenomenon is real but what amazes

1675
01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:55,280
me jimmy is the absolute ambivalence

1676
01:15:00,310 --> 01:14:57,600
on on people on a global level i mean

1677
01:15:02,709 --> 01:15:00,320
nobody nobody like says it you know it's

1678
01:15:04,790 --> 01:15:02,719
like business as usual yeah yeah we know

1679
01:15:07,590 --> 01:15:04,800
about those aliens what's for dinner you

1680
01:15:09,350 --> 01:15:07,600
know it's just it's unbelievable

1681
01:15:12,790 --> 01:15:09,360
let me stop you right there because i

1682
01:15:13,830 --> 01:15:12,800
think that's a very interesting point

1683
01:15:15,830 --> 01:15:13,840
that

1684
01:15:17,350 --> 01:15:15,840
20 years ago

1685
01:15:19,830 --> 01:15:17,360
30 years ago

1686
01:15:22,550 --> 01:15:19,840
tic tacs and the government we might

1687
01:15:25,669 --> 01:15:22,560
have had a completely different reaction

1688
01:15:28,149 --> 01:15:25,679
worldwide but it seems like there's been

1689
01:15:31,590 --> 01:15:28,159
emotion towards acclimation

1690
01:15:34,630 --> 01:15:31,600
and and getting everybody absorbed into

1691
01:15:36,070 --> 01:15:34,640
this so when the shoe does drop

1692
01:15:37,750 --> 01:15:36,080
the reaction is going to be just like

1693
01:15:40,149 --> 01:15:37,760
what you're saying right now it's pretty

1694
01:15:42,790 --> 01:15:40,159
blase

1695
01:15:44,470 --> 01:15:42,800
and that that's that means look what i

1696
01:15:47,110 --> 01:15:44,480
remember three years ago four years ago

1697
01:15:49,110 --> 01:15:47,120
now this december 2017 commander david

1698
01:15:50,950 --> 01:15:49,120
framer on tucker crossland i'm watching

1699
01:15:53,030 --> 01:15:50,960
tucker crossing because i'm a fan

1700
01:15:55,270 --> 01:15:53,040
that's my one news source i i like him

1701
01:15:57,110 --> 01:15:55,280
he's he's he's really sharp he's witty

1702
01:15:59,350 --> 01:15:57,120
he's erudite he's he's schooled i mean

1703
01:16:01,750 --> 01:15:59,360
the whole deal and you know i i study

1704
01:16:03,430 --> 01:16:01,760
the way he works with guests i mean i i

1705
01:16:04,709 --> 01:16:03,440
go to school when i watch him there's

1706
01:16:06,470 --> 01:16:04,719
always things you can pick up by

1707
01:16:07,750 --> 01:16:06,480
watching even people like yourself you

1708
01:16:10,070 --> 01:16:07,760
know you watch

1709
01:16:11,590 --> 01:16:10,080
watch the way you you know go to break i

1710
01:16:13,270 --> 01:16:11,600
mean just all those things you pick up

1711
01:16:14,950 --> 01:16:13,280
on those things as a as another

1712
01:16:17,189 --> 01:16:14,960
researcher as a guy in media you know

1713
01:16:18,790 --> 01:16:17,199
you watch everybody and learn and glean

1714
01:16:20,470 --> 01:16:18,800
from them so i'm sitting here watching

1715
01:16:22,149 --> 01:16:20,480
tucker it's a good show and

1716
01:16:24,310 --> 01:16:22,159
all of a sudden at the very end five

1717
01:16:25,910 --> 01:16:24,320
minutes left from the show he starts off

1718
01:16:27,430 --> 01:16:25,920
you know ufos used to be the stuff

1719
01:16:29,270 --> 01:16:27,440
thought about conspiracy theorists and

1720
01:16:31,350 --> 01:16:29,280
bile hot thing but maybe not anymore

1721
01:16:32,870 --> 01:16:31,360
commander david fravor joins us former

1722
01:16:35,350 --> 01:16:32,880
f-18 pilot who had an encounter with a

1723
01:16:37,110 --> 01:16:35,360
tic-tac-shaped ufo blah blah blah blah

1724
01:16:39,110 --> 01:16:37,120
i'm sitting there ready to fall off my

1725
01:16:41,750 --> 01:16:39,120
chair and so it's a triptych they've got

1726
01:16:44,310 --> 01:16:41,760
tucker fraber and then over here it's

1727
01:16:46,149 --> 01:16:44,320
classified footage it's classified

1728
01:16:47,590 --> 01:16:46,159
footage and it's been released somehow

1729
01:16:49,910 --> 01:16:47,600
and it's all showing and you know and

1730
01:16:51,830 --> 01:16:49,920
and and tucker asked fraber what do you

1731
01:16:53,830 --> 01:16:51,840
think this was and fraber looks right at

1732
01:16:55,830 --> 01:16:53,840
the camera and goes whatever this was

1733
01:16:57,590 --> 01:16:55,840
was not of this earth it's like oh my

1734
01:16:59,910 --> 01:16:57,600
god my phone's going to be ringing off

1735
01:17:01,750 --> 01:16:59,920
the hook honey you know disconnect the

1736
01:17:05,189 --> 01:17:01,760
phone this is it you know this is

1737
01:17:07,430 --> 01:17:05,199
disclosure next day totally flatlined

1738
01:17:09,430 --> 01:17:07,440
nothing happened i got no phone call i

1739
01:17:11,030 --> 01:17:09,440
got two emails from people oh my god oh

1740
01:17:14,470 --> 01:17:11,040
you just do this i mean

1741
01:17:15,189 --> 01:17:14,480
the the the ambivalence was deafening i

1742
01:17:21,830 --> 01:17:15,199
i

1743
01:17:24,310 --> 01:17:21,840
that became the nexus that one program

1744
01:17:25,830 --> 01:17:24,320
became a nexus for my book ufo

1745
01:17:28,149 --> 01:17:25,840
disclosure becoming great deception of a

1746
01:17:31,350 --> 01:17:28,159
luciferian game which then became a film

1747
01:17:33,110 --> 01:17:31,360
but i digress the bottom line is i just

1748
01:17:34,790 --> 01:17:33,120
i mean nobody

1749
01:17:36,070 --> 01:17:34,800
is i mean that's groundbreaking

1750
01:17:37,030 --> 01:17:36,080
information

1751
01:17:39,510 --> 01:17:37,040
and and

1752
01:17:41,990 --> 01:17:39,520
i talk about this at conferences

1753
01:17:42,950 --> 01:17:42,000
fraber is there

1754
01:17:44,790 --> 01:17:42,960
so

1755
01:17:47,830 --> 01:17:44,800
let me get this fraber doesn't have a

1756
01:17:50,070 --> 01:17:47,840
book doesn't have a dvd he's an unknown

1757
01:17:53,030 --> 01:17:50,080
doesn't have a a blog post doesn't have

1758
01:17:55,350 --> 01:17:53,040
a facebook page per se he's an unknown

1759
01:17:57,990 --> 01:17:55,360
okay it's like you know

1760
01:18:00,950 --> 01:17:58,000
how does he get on tucker carlson how

1761
01:18:03,110 --> 01:18:00,960
does that classified film get on tucker

1762
01:18:04,229 --> 01:18:03,120
cross and here's the deal who picks up

1763
01:18:07,110 --> 01:18:04,239
the phone

1764
01:18:09,110 --> 01:18:07,120
to tucker's producers and goes hey next

1765
01:18:11,270 --> 01:18:09,120
friday you're going to have this guy on

1766
01:18:12,630 --> 01:18:11,280
your show who yeah you're going to have

1767
01:18:14,709 --> 01:18:12,640
them on your show we're going to give

1768
01:18:17,990 --> 01:18:14,719
you some film your tucker's going to ask

1769
01:18:20,870 --> 01:18:18,000
these questions this was in my opinion

1770
01:18:22,950 --> 01:18:20,880
orchestrated it was managed and this is

1771
01:18:24,870 --> 01:18:22,960
how they broke it to the american people

1772
01:18:26,630 --> 01:18:24,880
yeah somebody somewhere said it yeah

1773
01:18:29,430 --> 01:18:26,640
some more somebody somewhere said it's

1774
01:18:31,910 --> 01:18:29,440
go time yeah it's go time exactly

1775
01:18:35,270 --> 01:18:31,920
i remember uh

1776
01:18:39,830 --> 01:18:35,280
that that day december 17th uh you know

1777
01:18:41,590 --> 01:18:39,840
you live in l.a i'm i'm listening to kfi

1778
01:18:44,390 --> 01:18:41,600
and you know i'm the

1779
01:18:46,550 --> 01:18:44,400
host over at coast to coast kfi is my

1780
01:18:48,310 --> 01:18:46,560
channel right and that's what i listen

1781
01:18:50,470 --> 01:18:48,320
to when i'm driving

1782
01:18:53,030 --> 01:18:50,480
and and i hear

1783
01:18:56,390 --> 01:18:53,040
coming back after the break ufos are

1784
01:18:59,189 --> 01:18:56,400
real right the pentagon is a secret ufo

1785
01:19:00,870 --> 01:18:59,199
i almost wrecked my car i i'm right

1786
01:19:02,870 --> 01:19:00,880
there with you i had the same reaction

1787
01:19:04,470 --> 01:19:02,880
you did and and

1788
01:19:06,709 --> 01:19:04,480
the next night

1789
01:19:09,270 --> 01:19:06,719
i'm over at uh

1790
01:19:10,229 --> 01:19:09,280
a family member's house

1791
01:19:13,990 --> 01:19:10,239
and

1792
01:19:16,950 --> 01:19:14,000
this the wife who i've known for you

1793
01:19:19,590 --> 01:19:16,960
know 15 20 years

1794
01:19:21,189 --> 01:19:19,600
we never talk ufos la they know what i

1795
01:19:23,430 --> 01:19:21,199
do for a living

1796
01:19:25,990 --> 01:19:23,440
we don't talk ufos

1797
01:19:28,390 --> 01:19:26,000
and and the subject comes up right this

1798
01:19:29,830 --> 01:19:28,400
is out it's the news the new york times

1799
01:19:32,470 --> 01:19:29,840
it's everywhere

1800
01:19:34,630 --> 01:19:32,480
and she says to me

1801
01:19:36,950 --> 01:19:34,640
of course we're not alone

1802
01:19:38,870 --> 01:19:36,960
what what's the big deal

1803
01:19:41,270 --> 01:19:38,880
and that was the attitude i think that

1804
01:19:43,350 --> 01:19:41,280
the rest of the world had at that moment

1805
01:19:45,270 --> 01:19:43,360
i don't think anybody was uh terribly

1806
01:19:47,510 --> 01:19:45,280
surprised

1807
01:19:48,790 --> 01:19:47,520
well it it it really astounds me because

1808
01:19:50,550 --> 01:19:48,800
all of a sudden you know for for

1809
01:19:52,709 --> 01:19:50,560
researchers like myself and everyone who

1810
01:19:54,310 --> 01:19:52,719
appears in the film by the way

1811
01:19:55,910 --> 01:19:54,320
i mean you know

1812
01:19:58,070 --> 01:19:55,920
some of these people many of these

1813
01:20:00,870 --> 01:19:58,080
people that appear in the film have

1814
01:20:02,390 --> 01:20:00,880
dedicated their lives right you to the

1815
01:20:05,110 --> 01:20:02,400
research and trying to find out what's

1816
01:20:06,629 --> 01:20:05,120
going on i mean i know i have

1817
01:20:08,870 --> 01:20:06,639
i mean certainly you know every

1818
01:20:11,350 --> 01:20:08,880
everybody who's in that film has has

1819
01:20:13,430 --> 01:20:11,360
dedicated years and years and years

1820
01:20:16,070 --> 01:20:13,440
of research and until

1821
01:20:17,590 --> 01:20:16,080
until the cat came out of the bag

1822
01:20:20,470 --> 01:20:17,600
in 2017

1823
01:20:22,310 --> 01:20:20,480
we were all thought of as tinfoil hat

1824
01:20:23,110 --> 01:20:22,320
conspiracy theorists

1825
01:20:25,590 --> 01:20:23,120
now

1826
01:20:27,510 --> 01:20:25,600
we're not of course there's no apologies

1827
01:20:29,189 --> 01:20:27,520
there's no wow you guys were really the

1828
01:20:31,030 --> 01:20:29,199
tip of the spear you knew something was

1829
01:20:33,270 --> 01:20:31,040
up we should have listened nope none of

1830
01:20:35,030 --> 01:20:33,280
that i mean there's no kudos at all it's

1831
01:20:37,270 --> 01:20:35,040
just you know shut up and do your stupid

1832
01:20:39,910 --> 01:20:37,280
show and leave me alone you know yeah

1833
01:20:42,229 --> 01:20:39,920
yeah yeah yeah unbelievable right yeah

1834
01:20:44,950 --> 01:20:42,239
just believable now

1835
01:20:47,830 --> 01:20:44,960
go ahead well i wanted to uh

1836
01:20:50,950 --> 01:20:47,840
ask you there i think there's uh two or

1837
01:20:53,910 --> 01:20:50,960
three well no actually it's infinite but

1838
01:20:56,390 --> 01:20:53,920
there's uh two three four five world

1839
01:20:58,709 --> 01:20:56,400
views here that need to be addressed

1840
01:21:01,270 --> 01:20:58,719
there's certainly the status quo

1841
01:21:03,990 --> 01:21:01,280
uh there's the experiencers and the

1842
01:21:06,270 --> 01:21:04,000
contactees there's the military uh

1843
01:21:08,870 --> 01:21:06,280
there's the political side there's the

1844
01:21:10,470 --> 01:21:08,880
geopolitical side but there's also the

1845
01:21:12,790 --> 01:21:10,480
religious side

1846
01:21:15,189 --> 01:21:12,800
and and not only everybody wants to

1847
01:21:16,870 --> 01:21:15,199
point at the vatican first well okay i

1848
01:21:20,390 --> 01:21:16,880
can appreciate that but there are plenty

1849
01:21:23,590 --> 01:21:20,400
of of religions around the world that

1850
01:21:24,629 --> 01:21:23,600
uh that dominate the population of this

1851
01:21:27,510 --> 01:21:24,639
planet

1852
01:21:29,270 --> 01:21:27,520
and that certainly needs to be addressed

1853
01:21:30,790 --> 01:21:29,280
and there has also been a lack of

1854
01:21:31,750 --> 01:21:30,800
reaction

1855
01:21:32,709 --> 01:21:31,760
uh

1856
01:21:35,030 --> 01:21:32,719
from

1857
01:21:37,350 --> 01:21:35,040
the religious leaders of the world and

1858
01:21:38,790 --> 01:21:37,360
why do you think that is and will that

1859
01:21:40,709 --> 01:21:38,800
get addressed

1860
01:21:43,110 --> 01:21:40,719
what was interesting is you know former

1861
01:21:45,990 --> 01:21:43,120
president barack hussein obama

1862
01:21:47,110 --> 01:21:46,000
uh when he was asked recently you know

1863
01:21:49,270 --> 01:21:47,120
what are your thoughts about the

1864
01:21:51,430 --> 01:21:49,280
so-called ufo disclosure

1865
01:21:53,590 --> 01:21:51,440
and the first thing out of obama's mouth

1866
01:21:55,590 --> 01:21:53,600
i mean of all the things you could say

1867
01:21:57,910 --> 01:21:55,600
he said and with a little smirk on his

1868
01:21:59,910 --> 01:21:57,920
face that little that little smirk like

1869
01:22:01,430 --> 01:21:59,920
he knows something that we don't he

1870
01:22:02,709 --> 01:22:01,440
basically stated there's going to be new

1871
01:22:05,110 --> 01:22:02,719
religions

1872
01:22:07,430 --> 01:22:05,120
now why would he lead off with that

1873
01:22:10,229 --> 01:22:07,440
why would obama lead off with the fact

1874
01:22:12,550 --> 01:22:10,239
there's going to be when e.t shows up

1875
01:22:14,149 --> 01:22:12,560
the so-called extraterrestrial shows up

1876
01:22:16,070 --> 01:22:14,159
there's going to be new religions that

1877
01:22:18,870 --> 01:22:16,080
will be formed around

1878
01:22:20,470 --> 01:22:18,880
this so-called extraterrestrial i mean i

1879
01:22:22,149 --> 01:22:20,480
just about thought i'm like sure when i

1880
01:22:23,830 --> 01:22:22,159
read that it was just

1881
01:22:26,310 --> 01:22:23,840
it was out of all the things he could

1882
01:22:28,629 --> 01:22:26,320
lead with that's that's his number one

1883
01:22:29,510 --> 01:22:28,639
point what does he know that we don't

1884
01:22:31,990 --> 01:22:29,520
know

1885
01:22:33,830 --> 01:22:32,000
there's an ancient prophetic text

1886
01:22:36,470 --> 01:22:33,840
that talks about

1887
01:22:38,790 --> 01:22:36,480
that there will be a great apostasy the

1888
01:22:41,830 --> 01:22:38,800
apostasy in other words in the greek

1889
01:22:44,310 --> 01:22:41,840
it's apostasia and it speaks of

1890
01:22:46,550 --> 01:22:44,320
something that happens where this great

1891
01:22:49,189 --> 01:22:46,560
apostasy happens where people

1892
01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:49,199
leave their belief system and just just

1893
01:22:52,950 --> 01:22:50,880
abandon it and move away from it they

1894
01:22:55,030 --> 01:22:52,960
just move away from let's say in this

1895
01:22:56,950 --> 01:22:55,040
particular instance the christian faith

1896
01:22:59,189 --> 01:22:56,960
because that's what this basically it's

1897
01:23:01,830 --> 01:22:59,199
a biblical passage but the greek word is

1898
01:23:04,390 --> 01:23:01,840
apostasia which which can mean departure

1899
01:23:07,750 --> 01:23:04,400
but with the nuts and bolts of that

1900
01:23:10,470 --> 01:23:07,760
is apostasy there's like a willful

1901
01:23:12,229 --> 01:23:10,480
walking away from a certain belief and

1902
01:23:13,590 --> 01:23:12,239
looking towards something else and that

1903
01:23:16,950 --> 01:23:13,600
begs the question

1904
01:23:17,669 --> 01:23:16,960
what would do this well it's the uh it's

1905
01:23:23,750 --> 01:23:17,679
the

1906
01:23:25,430 --> 01:23:23,760
i was with george nori a while back

1907
01:23:26,950 --> 01:23:25,440
actually right before coburn two

1908
01:23:28,790 --> 01:23:26,960
januaries ago

1909
01:23:31,030 --> 01:23:28,800
up at that

1910
01:23:32,470 --> 01:23:31,040
at big bear for that one conference ufo

1911
01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:32,480
conference

1912
01:23:35,350 --> 01:23:34,320
and george asked the audience how many

1913
01:23:37,030 --> 01:23:35,360
people

1914
01:23:38,629 --> 01:23:37,040
believe in life in other on other

1915
01:23:40,870 --> 01:23:38,639
planets everybody in the room raised

1916
01:23:43,110 --> 01:23:40,880
their hand and then george asked how

1917
01:23:44,709 --> 01:23:43,120
many people don't i was the only hand

1918
01:23:46,550 --> 01:23:44,719
that was up and i was sitting on a panel

1919
01:23:47,350 --> 01:23:46,560
so george didn't see me and people were

1920
01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:47,360
going

1921
01:23:52,310 --> 01:23:49,360
l.a all right and george looks at me and

1922
01:23:55,189 --> 01:23:52,320
he kind of he was taken aback like what

1923
01:23:57,350 --> 01:23:55,199
and i said george here's and i addressed

1924
01:23:59,030 --> 01:23:57,360
this in my talk to the people

1925
01:24:01,270 --> 01:23:59,040
that were there i said

1926
01:24:02,950 --> 01:24:01,280
no one knows what this is if we're

1927
01:24:06,070 --> 01:24:02,960
intellectually honest

1928
01:24:08,229 --> 01:24:06,080
nobody has a clue as to what this is

1929
01:24:10,870 --> 01:24:08,239
where we are in it what this is where it

1930
01:24:12,790 --> 01:24:10,880
comes from who made it we have no idea

1931
01:24:15,189 --> 01:24:12,800
we can postulate to the cows come home

1932
01:24:17,510 --> 01:24:15,199
but in reality if the universe is as

1933
01:24:20,070 --> 01:24:17,520
analogous of united states of america is

1934
01:24:23,750 --> 01:24:20,080
planet earth in in duluth

1935
01:24:25,510 --> 01:24:23,760
houston los angeles tampa no one knows

1936
01:24:27,750 --> 01:24:25,520
where we are

1937
01:24:30,390 --> 01:24:27,760
in this thing what if it is a

1938
01:24:32,310 --> 01:24:30,400
holographic universe on some on some

1939
01:24:34,790 --> 01:24:32,320
level that would explain a whole lot of

1940
01:24:36,550 --> 01:24:34,800
paranormal activity because

1941
01:24:38,390 --> 01:24:36,560
these entities come in

1942
01:24:40,629 --> 01:24:38,400
um and i'm talking let's just skip right

1943
01:24:42,950 --> 01:24:40,639
over to the abduction phenomena when

1944
01:24:45,430 --> 01:24:42,960
when you are taken you go right through

1945
01:24:47,270 --> 01:24:45,440
the window you're paralyzed whoever is

1946
01:24:49,270 --> 01:24:47,280
doing this these entities can manipulate

1947
01:24:50,629 --> 01:24:49,280
space-time matter and energy

1948
01:24:52,310 --> 01:24:50,639
so that

1949
01:24:54,470 --> 01:24:52,320
brings in all sorts of interesting

1950
01:24:56,310 --> 01:24:54,480
questions how are they able to do that

1951
01:24:59,189 --> 01:24:56,320
we don't know we don't know how they're

1952
01:25:01,430 --> 01:24:59,199
able to do that but we also know from

1953
01:25:03,270 --> 01:25:01,440
the biblical prophetic narrative that

1954
01:25:05,510 --> 01:25:03,280
certain prophets and certain leaders

1955
01:25:06,950 --> 01:25:05,520
like jesus for instance were able to do

1956
01:25:09,910 --> 01:25:06,960
exactly the same thing they were able to

1957
01:25:12,149 --> 01:25:09,920
manipulate space-time matter and energy

1958
01:25:13,990 --> 01:25:12,159
feeding 5000 raising lazarus from a dead

1959
01:25:15,590 --> 01:25:14,000
walking on water these are all things

1960
01:25:18,229 --> 01:25:15,600
that to us are miraculous and they

1961
01:25:20,310 --> 01:25:18,239
certainly are obviously to him they were

1962
01:25:22,070 --> 01:25:20,320
the status quo so

1963
01:25:24,470 --> 01:25:22,080
again going back to that thing we have

1964
01:25:26,550 --> 01:25:24,480
no idea where we are what this is if

1965
01:25:28,950 --> 01:25:26,560
this is a holographic universe it would

1966
01:25:30,229 --> 01:25:28,960
explain a whole lot of things we may be

1967
01:25:32,870 --> 01:25:30,239
in fact

1968
01:25:34,709 --> 01:25:32,880
the only thing here we don't know that

1969
01:25:37,750 --> 01:25:34,719
do i believe in the plurality of worlds

1970
01:25:39,669 --> 01:25:37,760
no i don't um and i and i just stated

1971
01:25:41,350 --> 01:25:39,679
why i don't there's also a prophetic

1972
01:25:43,350 --> 01:25:41,360
scripture that talks about that the

1973
01:25:45,030 --> 01:25:43,360
heavens will be rolled up like a scroll

1974
01:25:46,790 --> 01:25:45,040
wait a minute just stop that you put

1975
01:25:49,350 --> 01:25:46,800
your head around that wait a minute the

1976
01:25:51,510 --> 01:25:49,360
heavens rolled up like a scroll i mean

1977
01:25:53,510 --> 01:25:51,520
what that's i mean again the guy who's

1978
01:25:55,430 --> 01:25:53,520
seeing this is trying to get his head

1979
01:25:56,870 --> 01:25:55,440
around what he's seeing he's reporting

1980
01:25:59,110 --> 01:25:56,880
back what he's seeing he's seeing

1981
01:26:00,470 --> 01:25:59,120
something futuristic the heavens rolled

1982
01:26:02,870 --> 01:26:00,480
up like a scroll

1983
01:26:05,189 --> 01:26:02,880
so you know that's that's in his grid

1984
01:26:07,830 --> 01:26:05,199
system scrolls that's all they had back

1985
01:26:09,830 --> 01:26:07,840
then a scroll so something is rolled up

1986
01:26:11,830 --> 01:26:09,840
like a scroll that's what it looks like

1987
01:26:13,669 --> 01:26:11,840
it's almost like it's a curtain that's

1988
01:26:15,430 --> 01:26:13,679
being rolled up it's like you know

1989
01:26:17,669 --> 01:26:15,440
wizard of oz don't pay any attention to

1990
01:26:20,390 --> 01:26:17,679
the guy behind the curtain but you know

1991
01:26:22,950 --> 01:26:20,400
again no one look i've said this at

1992
01:26:24,870 --> 01:26:22,960
numerous conferences the audience will

1993
01:26:26,709 --> 01:26:24,880
be sitting there and i'll be going okay

1994
01:26:28,550 --> 01:26:26,719
let's walk through this you're all

1995
01:26:29,990 --> 01:26:28,560
sitting there listening to me speak

1996
01:26:32,229 --> 01:26:30,000
first of all

1997
01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:32,239
how does that work what is language how

1998
01:26:36,229 --> 01:26:33,920
can you decipher everything i'm saying

1999
01:26:39,030 --> 01:26:36,239
right now to your listening audience how

2000
01:26:41,669 --> 01:26:39,040
how can you possibly decipher what i am

2001
01:26:42,629 --> 01:26:41,679
saying as i'm saying it there's no like

2002
01:26:43,910 --> 01:26:42,639
low

2003
01:26:45,990 --> 01:26:43,920
you know you're not going i better

2004
01:26:48,070 --> 01:26:46,000
better you know i'm not speaking spanish

2005
01:26:49,830 --> 01:26:48,080
or or you know swahili you all

2006
01:26:51,510 --> 01:26:49,840
understand english so you're right there

2007
01:26:53,990 --> 01:26:51,520
with me you're boom boom boom boom boom

2008
01:26:55,830 --> 01:26:54,000
you contract with me it's it's fluid

2009
01:26:57,669 --> 01:26:55,840
it's there but why i'm speaking and

2010
01:26:59,910 --> 01:26:57,679
you're listening your brain is

2011
01:27:01,830 --> 01:26:59,920
processing the information your heart's

2012
01:27:03,350 --> 01:27:01,840
beating your lungs are you know you're

2013
01:27:05,110 --> 01:27:03,360
not going like i better better get that

2014
01:27:07,590 --> 01:27:05,120
heart going better start breathing your

2015
01:27:10,310 --> 01:27:07,600
eyes are blinking automatically and

2016
01:27:11,990 --> 01:27:10,320
everything about us is working how does

2017
01:27:15,270 --> 01:27:12,000
that work where does consciousness

2018
01:27:17,590 --> 01:27:15,280
reside nobody knows this is alarming no

2019
01:27:19,990 --> 01:27:17,600
one on this planet no one has ever lived

2020
01:27:21,910 --> 01:27:20,000
knows where consciousness resides where

2021
01:27:25,910 --> 01:27:21,920
is jimmy church right now you're in this

2022
01:27:27,510 --> 01:27:25,920
little biological bodysuit just like me

2023
01:27:30,470 --> 01:27:27,520
i mean it works really well most of the

2024
01:27:32,149 --> 01:27:30,480
time but where do i reside

2025
01:27:33,910 --> 01:27:32,159
i don't know i'm not this little thing

2026
01:27:35,189 --> 01:27:33,920
in my brain they've dissected it there's

2027
01:27:36,790 --> 01:27:35,199
no little guy up there going hey

2028
01:27:39,189 --> 01:27:36,800
everybody it's great in here no one's

2029
01:27:42,310 --> 01:27:39,199
doing that so it's like what is this

2030
01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:42,320
where are we no body flipping nose so

2031
01:27:46,709 --> 01:27:45,520
with that in mind all that as a backdrop

2032
01:27:48,629 --> 01:27:46,719
um

2033
01:27:50,390 --> 01:27:48,639
i think that there's a supernatural

2034
01:27:53,590 --> 01:27:50,400
dynamic to this

2035
01:27:55,030 --> 01:27:53,600
which explains a whole lot of stuff

2036
01:27:56,790 --> 01:27:55,040
and that's why i think as a real

2037
01:27:58,870 --> 01:27:56,800
nefarious agenda when you go into the

2038
01:28:00,709 --> 01:27:58,880
breeding program which your film didn't

2039
01:28:02,229 --> 01:28:00,719
touch i know you're going to get there

2040
01:28:03,910 --> 01:28:02,239
but that that's the nuts and bolts of

2041
01:28:06,070 --> 01:28:03,920
what's really going on people are taking

2042
01:28:08,070 --> 01:28:06,080
sperm mistake i'm over mistaken there

2043
01:28:10,070 --> 01:28:08,080
are hybrids i've never met one i don't

2044
01:28:11,830 --> 01:28:10,080
want to meet one but i have people that

2045
01:28:14,149 --> 01:28:11,840
have come on the record with me that

2046
01:28:15,990 --> 01:28:14,159
have met them and it's very alarming

2047
01:28:18,550 --> 01:28:16,000
they are in a fixed state they are in a

2048
01:28:20,070 --> 01:28:18,560
fixed state and they are inherently evil

2049
01:28:22,870 --> 01:28:20,080
i hate to say that but that's what they

2050
01:28:24,629 --> 01:28:22,880
are so you know once again the ancient

2051
01:28:27,110 --> 01:28:24,639
prophetic text jesus warns us it'll be

2052
01:28:28,790 --> 01:28:27,120
like the days of noah when he returns

2053
01:28:30,070 --> 01:28:28,800
that that's a three-hour conversation

2054
01:28:32,229 --> 01:28:30,080
which we don't have a time for but the

2055
01:28:33,590 --> 01:28:32,239
bottom line is what differentiates the

2056
01:28:35,189 --> 01:28:33,600
days of noah and that's the presence of

2057
01:28:37,590 --> 01:28:35,199
the fallen angels mingling with the

2058
01:28:39,350 --> 01:28:37,600
woman of earth creating a hybrid entity

2059
01:28:41,669 --> 01:28:39,360
known as the nephilim there's another

2060
01:28:43,510 --> 01:28:41,679
one another prophetic scripture they

2061
01:28:44,870 --> 01:28:43,520
will mingle their seed with the seed of

2062
01:28:47,830 --> 01:28:44,880
men but they will not cleave with them

2063
01:28:50,550 --> 01:28:47,840
well who the heck is they say they will

2064
01:28:51,910 --> 01:28:50,560
mingle their seed so there's seed coming

2065
01:28:53,669 --> 01:28:51,920
from something

2066
01:28:55,030 --> 01:28:53,679
that's not mankind they will mingle

2067
01:28:56,709 --> 01:28:55,040
their seed with the seed of men but they

2068
01:28:58,790 --> 01:28:56,719
will not cleave there's no marriage

2069
01:29:00,629 --> 01:28:58,800
ceremony like there was back in genesis

2070
01:29:03,350 --> 01:29:00,639
6 they're not taking wives they're just

2071
01:29:05,350 --> 01:29:03,360
doing this or mingling the seed welcome

2072
01:29:07,910 --> 01:29:05,360
welcome to the hybrid

2073
01:29:11,110 --> 01:29:07,920
uh program that that's been going on

2074
01:29:13,030 --> 01:29:11,120
literally for decades for decades

2075
01:29:15,830 --> 01:29:13,040
uh i need to take a break right here i'm

2076
01:29:18,070 --> 01:29:15,840
going to continue uh this narrative uh

2077
01:29:21,350 --> 01:29:18,080
when we come back after the break

2078
01:29:23,270 --> 01:29:21,360
um there's one concept uh

2079
01:29:26,229 --> 01:29:23,280
i want your just quick reaction before

2080
01:29:28,550 --> 01:29:26,239
the break that when i was young

2081
01:29:30,550 --> 01:29:28,560
we all go through that you're 21 years

2082
01:29:33,110 --> 01:29:30,560
old and you and you and you go through

2083
01:29:35,750 --> 01:29:33,120
this phase in life you know and i did it

2084
01:29:38,870 --> 01:29:35,760
was a traumatic summer for me

2085
01:29:41,189 --> 01:29:38,880
with the bible and ufos it was it was it

2086
01:29:42,149 --> 01:29:41,199
was awesome but what i did with the

2087
01:29:46,229 --> 01:29:42,159
bible

2088
01:29:49,110 --> 01:29:46,239
uh l.a is every time i saw angel

2089
01:29:53,189 --> 01:29:49,120
or prophet or this or that i just

2090
01:29:54,950 --> 01:29:53,199
inserted e.t i inserted alien and and

2091
01:29:56,709 --> 01:29:54,960
and the story

2092
01:29:59,110 --> 01:29:56,719
made sense to me

2093
01:30:01,669 --> 01:29:59,120
was i reaching with that

2094
01:30:04,470 --> 01:30:01,679
well yes and no i mean here's the deal

2095
01:30:07,350 --> 01:30:04,480
when you say angel an angel is by

2096
01:30:08,950 --> 01:30:07,360
definition an alien any alien let's get

2097
01:30:10,950 --> 01:30:08,960
our terms aliens something not

2098
01:30:12,870 --> 01:30:10,960
originating on this earth right an angel

2099
01:30:15,270 --> 01:30:12,880
does not originate on this earth they're

2100
01:30:17,430 --> 01:30:15,280
not here they come here their message is

2101
01:30:19,350 --> 01:30:17,440
sent from another dimension and they

2102
01:30:21,110 --> 01:30:19,360
they come through through gateways

2103
01:30:22,950 --> 01:30:21,120
through portals that's how they manifest

2104
01:30:24,870 --> 01:30:22,960
here but they're not from here they

2105
01:30:26,950 --> 01:30:24,880
didn't originate from here so in the

2106
01:30:29,510 --> 01:30:26,960
classic sense of the word you're right

2107
01:30:31,990 --> 01:30:29,520
you know if you if you inserted alien

2108
01:30:33,750 --> 01:30:32,000
um as instead of angel

2109
01:30:35,669 --> 01:30:33,760
technically you're right because they

2110
01:30:37,750 --> 01:30:35,679
are aliens however

2111
01:30:39,750 --> 01:30:37,760
angelos which is which is what it what

2112
01:30:43,189 --> 01:30:39,760
it it the word is it just means

2113
01:30:45,350 --> 01:30:43,199
messenger and these are um very very

2114
01:30:48,470 --> 01:30:45,360
powerful entities both the good and the

2115
01:30:50,629 --> 01:30:48,480
bad very powerful entities extremely

2116
01:30:51,510 --> 01:30:50,639
powerful which is why i don't know

2117
01:30:53,910 --> 01:30:51,520
whether you've ever been around a

2118
01:30:55,750 --> 01:30:53,920
demoniac but that's of course

2119
01:30:57,990 --> 01:30:55,760
the bad thing but when you're around a

2120
01:30:59,110 --> 01:30:58,000
demoniac it's hard to remember your name

2121
01:31:03,270 --> 01:30:59,120
literally

2122
01:31:05,750 --> 01:31:03,280
it

2123
01:31:07,270 --> 01:31:05,760
when you come into their field in other

2124
01:31:09,430 --> 01:31:07,280
words someone's possessed they're in

2125
01:31:12,229 --> 01:31:09,440
front of you 20 feet you know you're

2126
01:31:13,669 --> 01:31:12,239
possessed you walk up to them and all of

2127
01:31:16,629 --> 01:31:13,679
a sudden you're hit and this has

2128
01:31:18,149 --> 01:31:16,639
happened to me you're hit and you go and

2129
01:31:20,070 --> 01:31:18,159
you just kind of sit there for a second

2130
01:31:21,990 --> 01:31:20,080
going getting your bearings your heart

2131
01:31:24,070 --> 01:31:22,000
hard to remember where you are what your

2132
01:31:25,669 --> 01:31:24,080
name is and what you're doing there um

2133
01:31:26,870 --> 01:31:25,679
this is why it gets into spiritual

2134
01:31:28,709 --> 01:31:26,880
warfare and

2135
01:31:31,430 --> 01:31:28,719
yes i have the authority over it but man

2136
01:31:33,910 --> 01:31:31,440
i better be prayed up before i attack

2137
01:31:36,149 --> 01:31:33,920
this thing and i better make sure that

2138
01:31:38,390 --> 01:31:36,159
two things the person wants the demon

2139
01:31:40,070 --> 01:31:38,400
out number one and number two i'm called

2140
01:31:41,669 --> 01:31:40,080
to do this right now so there are

2141
01:31:43,590 --> 01:31:41,679
certain protocols

2142
01:31:45,990 --> 01:31:43,600
uh to engaging

2143
01:31:48,950 --> 01:31:46,000
a demoniac on the other hand um i've

2144
01:31:51,189 --> 01:31:48,960
been in the presence of angelic entities

2145
01:31:52,310 --> 01:31:51,199
not often very very rare just a few

2146
01:31:54,470 --> 01:31:52,320
occasions

2147
01:31:55,350 --> 01:31:54,480
and i was terrified

2148
01:31:57,830 --> 01:31:55,360
well

2149
01:31:59,110 --> 01:31:57,840
let's take a break it sounds like what i

2150
01:32:01,910 --> 01:31:59,120
went through

2151
01:32:04,950 --> 01:32:01,920
in 1985 on the sunset strip as a guitar

2152
01:32:07,189 --> 01:32:04,960
player but that's a whole nother story

2153
01:32:10,470 --> 01:32:07,199
let's take our break right here this is

2154
01:32:12,790 --> 01:32:10,480
fade to black l.a marzulli is with us

2155
01:32:14,870 --> 01:32:12,800
on the night of the world premiere for

2156
01:32:17,510 --> 01:32:14,880
extraordinary the revelations his

2157
01:32:18,950 --> 01:32:17,520
contribution to the film is amazing

2158
01:32:20,229 --> 01:32:18,960
everybody should check it out tonight

2159
01:32:22,229 --> 01:32:20,239
after the show i'm your host jimmy

2160
01:32:27,690 --> 01:32:22,239
church this is fade to black be right

2161
01:32:27,700 --> 01:32:35,189
[Music]

2162
01:32:38,870 --> 01:32:37,350
you're listening to jimmy church and

2163
01:32:48,629 --> 01:32:38,880
fade to black

2164
01:32:54,870 --> 01:32:51,750
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2165
01:32:56,709 --> 01:32:54,880
you're listening to fade to black

2166
01:32:59,430 --> 01:32:56,719
always on the edge of the hottest

2167
01:33:02,670 --> 01:32:59,440
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2168
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:14,870
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supply i do disruptions in the food

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they usually occur with little warning

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hi i'm rhys evans you're listening to

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jimmy church this is revolution the

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[Music]

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all right welcome back fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church

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01:37:53,590 --> 01:37:50,960
tonight is the world premiere for

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01:37:55,669 --> 01:37:53,600
extraordinary the revelations we just

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01:37:58,390 --> 01:37:55,679
heard from director john sumple right

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01:37:59,750 --> 01:37:58,400
now la marzulli is with us and at the

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01:38:01,990 --> 01:37:59,760
top of the hour

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01:38:05,350 --> 01:38:02,000
it's also the world premiere of laurie

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01:38:07,030 --> 01:38:05,360
wagner stay tuned for that um la a tweet

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01:38:08,709 --> 01:38:07,040
just went out that said

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01:38:09,900 --> 01:38:08,719
they are now convinced that i've been

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01:38:13,590 --> 01:38:09,910
infiltrated

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01:38:15,109 --> 01:38:13,600
[Laughter]

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01:38:16,629 --> 01:38:15,119
how many times have you heard that over

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01:38:18,390 --> 01:38:16,639
the years right

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01:38:21,990 --> 01:38:18,400
i'll go yeah

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01:38:23,750 --> 01:38:22,000
um yeah i i i want to uh uh talk about

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01:38:25,669 --> 01:38:23,760
something uh pretty direct by the way

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01:38:27,590 --> 01:38:25,679
timothy albarino

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01:38:30,629 --> 01:38:27,600
that he's my new hero you've been

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01:38:33,430 --> 01:38:30,639
replaced actually

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01:38:34,550 --> 01:38:33,440
sorry to hit you with the bad news l.a

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01:38:37,350 --> 01:38:34,560
um

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01:38:41,750 --> 01:38:37,360
sharp guy and uh one of the things that

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01:38:43,669 --> 01:38:41,760
i did um over uh the last year as the

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01:38:48,070 --> 01:38:43,679
film started to get completed

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01:38:50,310 --> 01:38:48,080
i i went and i watched um a bunch of

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01:38:54,629 --> 01:38:50,320
your appearances

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01:38:56,870 --> 01:38:54,639
um outside of our community okay and uh

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01:38:58,790 --> 01:38:56,880
and the same thing with timothy right

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01:39:02,470 --> 01:38:58,800
i'm checking out tim

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01:39:05,109 --> 01:39:02,480
and you guys are addressing

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01:39:09,109 --> 01:39:05,119
uh another component outside of our

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01:39:12,229 --> 01:39:09,119
community uh one based in in religion

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01:39:14,390 --> 01:39:12,239
and when you speak about these subjects

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01:39:16,629 --> 01:39:14,400
two i mean i mean these

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01:39:18,149 --> 01:39:16,639
religious leaders as well as the

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01:39:19,830 --> 01:39:18,159
audience right

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01:39:22,550 --> 01:39:19,840
they're captivated

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01:39:24,550 --> 01:39:22,560
and and they are listening um now are

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01:39:26,790 --> 01:39:24,560
they understanding

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01:39:30,470 --> 01:39:26,800
i see a lot of nodding of the heads in

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01:39:33,030 --> 01:39:30,480
an agreement um but are they absorbing

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01:39:36,070 --> 01:39:33,040
this and are they okay

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01:39:38,550 --> 01:39:36,080
with the ufo component the e.t component

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01:39:39,510 --> 01:39:38,560
that say you and timothy are bringing to

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01:39:40,950 --> 01:39:39,520
the table

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01:39:42,629 --> 01:39:40,960
well you know tim is one of the few

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01:39:44,550 --> 01:39:42,639
people other than myself i mean there's

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01:39:46,390 --> 01:39:44,560
a handful of us tom horn's another one

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01:39:49,270 --> 01:39:46,400
certainly dr mike kaiser would be a

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01:39:50,870 --> 01:39:49,280
fourth derrick gilbert um gary stearman

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01:39:52,310 --> 01:39:50,880
i mean give me a break i mean right

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01:39:54,870 --> 01:39:52,320
there's a handful of us who have been

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01:39:57,270 --> 01:39:54,880
talking about the subject for decades

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01:39:59,910 --> 01:39:57,280
i've written 13 books most of them deal

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01:40:01,590 --> 01:39:59,920
with the ufo phenomenal i produced 21

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01:40:03,350 --> 01:40:01,600
films uh

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01:40:05,510 --> 01:40:03,360
co-produced with richard shaw late

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01:40:07,590 --> 01:40:05,520
richard shaw we did 11 films of the

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01:40:10,070 --> 01:40:07,600
watchers series and then i've done nine

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01:40:12,470 --> 01:40:10,080
on my own so you know it's it's a it's a

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01:40:14,709 --> 01:40:12,480
corpus of work it's a lot of work

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01:40:16,790 --> 01:40:14,719
um and everything

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01:40:18,550 --> 01:40:16,800
uh hinges you see here here's the

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01:40:19,669 --> 01:40:18,560
difference i have a supernatural

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01:40:21,750 --> 01:40:19,679
worldview

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01:40:22,950 --> 01:40:21,760
so it's not when people use the word

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01:40:24,950 --> 01:40:22,960
religious

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01:40:26,950 --> 01:40:24,960
that that has so many negative

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01:40:29,910 --> 01:40:26,960
connotations to people you can use that

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01:40:32,229 --> 01:40:29,920
i don't mind but i my worldview and i

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01:40:34,390 --> 01:40:32,239
know tim albarino's worldview we are

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01:40:35,669 --> 01:40:34,400
frank supernaturalist we believe that we

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01:40:36,470 --> 01:40:35,679
are looking

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01:40:42,709 --> 01:40:36,480
at

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01:40:43,750 --> 01:40:42,719
although all the stops are being pulled

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01:40:45,750 --> 01:40:43,760
out

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01:40:48,550 --> 01:40:45,760
there is a battle that has been raging

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01:40:49,990 --> 01:40:48,560
in an unseen dimension for millennia

2334
01:40:52,310 --> 01:40:50,000
i wrote about this in the book the

2335
01:40:53,669 --> 01:40:52,320
cosmic chess match um it's been

2336
01:40:56,390 --> 01:40:53,679
prophesied

2337
01:40:59,270 --> 01:40:56,400
we are in the latter part of that

2338
01:41:01,830 --> 01:40:59,280
the latter part of that uh of that war

2339
01:41:04,310 --> 01:41:01,840
um and we're going to see some things

2340
01:41:07,669 --> 01:41:04,320
which are mind-boggling mind-blowing

2341
01:41:09,030 --> 01:41:07,679
here in in the coming years but

2342
01:41:10,709 --> 01:41:09,040
you know tim

2343
01:41:13,750 --> 01:41:10,719
pulls no punches

2344
01:41:16,310 --> 01:41:13,760
um we are in a supernatural world view

2345
01:41:18,550 --> 01:41:16,320
there is a supernatural hierarchy there

2346
01:41:20,390 --> 01:41:18,560
was a rebellion that happened

2347
01:41:21,270 --> 01:41:20,400
far back in time we don't know how far

2348
01:41:24,310 --> 01:41:21,280
back

2349
01:41:25,590 --> 01:41:24,320
um and those forces that left

2350
01:41:27,750 --> 01:41:25,600
and rebelled

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01:41:28,950 --> 01:41:27,760
uh are the ones that are doing what we

2352
01:41:30,709 --> 01:41:28,960
see now

2353
01:41:32,950 --> 01:41:30,719
there everything

2354
01:41:34,790 --> 01:41:32,960
everything hinges on this jimmy let me

2355
01:41:36,390 --> 01:41:34,800
just back up and this is

2356
01:41:38,950 --> 01:41:36,400
the the man who

2357
01:41:40,790 --> 01:41:38,960
set this in motion for me was gary

2358
01:41:42,709 --> 01:41:40,800
stearman's talk at a nephilim mounds

2359
01:41:44,950 --> 01:41:42,719
conference at russ disdar

2360
01:41:46,550 --> 01:41:44,960
and i held together and gary stearman

2361
01:41:48,709 --> 01:41:46,560
was talking about it's all about the

2362
01:41:51,750 --> 01:41:48,719
seed that was his presentation

2363
01:41:53,830 --> 01:41:51,760
there's a scripture genesis 3 15

2364
01:41:56,070 --> 01:41:53,840
and in that little vignette

2365
01:41:57,830 --> 01:41:56,080
there's the pre-incarnate christ in my

2366
01:41:59,510 --> 01:41:57,840
opinion jesus is there

2367
01:42:01,510 --> 01:41:59,520
and you know when i say jesus there's so

2368
01:42:04,229 --> 01:42:01,520
many people have all these different

2369
01:42:06,550 --> 01:42:04,239
connotations you know the concepts of

2370
01:42:09,189 --> 01:42:06,560
what he might be or may not be and what

2371
01:42:10,629 --> 01:42:09,199
i what i ask them is if if you think you

2372
01:42:13,270 --> 01:42:10,639
know him but you don't know him then you

2373
01:42:14,870 --> 01:42:13,280
don't know him so if it's if you think

2374
01:42:16,629 --> 01:42:14,880
you know him but you don't know him

2375
01:42:18,790 --> 01:42:16,639
personally then you don't know i know

2376
01:42:21,030 --> 01:42:18,800
him personally anyone who was born again

2377
01:42:23,270 --> 01:42:21,040
spirit-filled enters into a relationship

2378
01:42:25,109 --> 01:42:23,280
with him that's that's the miracle of

2379
01:42:26,950 --> 01:42:25,119
christianity that happened 2000 years

2380
01:42:29,109 --> 01:42:26,960
ago when a person is born again and

2381
01:42:31,669 --> 01:42:29,119
spirit filled everything changes it's

2382
01:42:33,590 --> 01:42:31,679
free you can't buy it you can't you ask

2383
01:42:35,750 --> 01:42:33,600
for it and and he comes in and

2384
01:42:37,910 --> 01:42:35,760
everything begins to change uh that

2385
01:42:40,070 --> 01:42:37,920
happened to me 41 years ago

2386
01:42:41,189 --> 01:42:40,080
so the bottom line is that in this

2387
01:42:43,510 --> 01:42:41,199
little vignette there's the

2388
01:42:44,790 --> 01:42:43,520
pre-incarnate christ adam and eve are

2389
01:42:45,910 --> 01:42:44,800
over there and people can believe it or

2390
01:42:48,149 --> 01:42:45,920
not believe it i'm just telling you what

2391
01:42:49,669 --> 01:42:48,159
the scripture says because it sets up

2392
01:42:50,870 --> 01:42:49,679
the rest of the biblical prophetic

2393
01:42:54,070 --> 01:42:50,880
narrative

2394
01:42:56,070 --> 01:42:54,080
the dragon is over here adam and eve is

2395
01:42:58,070 --> 01:42:56,080
over here pre-incarnate christ he looks

2396
01:42:59,590 --> 01:42:58,080
at the dragon he says your seed your

2397
01:43:04,790 --> 01:42:59,600
offspring

2398
01:43:07,270 --> 01:43:04,800
will be at enmity at war with the

2399
01:43:09,590 --> 01:43:07,280
offspring the seed of the woman what's

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01:43:11,350 --> 01:43:09,600
coming from the woman he

2401
01:43:13,510 --> 01:43:11,360
will crush the dragon's head you will

2402
01:43:16,149 --> 01:43:13,520
bruise his heel jimmy that sets up the

2403
01:43:18,950 --> 01:43:16,159
rest of the narrative the entire bible

2404
01:43:21,750 --> 01:43:18,960
is based on that one phrase everything

2405
01:43:23,990 --> 01:43:21,760
hinges it everything hangs on that one

2406
01:43:26,629 --> 01:43:24,000
little sentence that's it it sets up

2407
01:43:29,109 --> 01:43:26,639
everything the rest of the bible is all

2408
01:43:31,430 --> 01:43:29,119
about the seed war because that's what

2409
01:43:34,149 --> 01:43:31,440
it is it's a seed war between the seed

2410
01:43:36,310 --> 01:43:34,159
of a dragon and the seed of the woman

2411
01:43:38,870 --> 01:43:36,320
and that's a three-hour conversation but

2412
01:43:41,430 --> 01:43:38,880
basically it manifests a few chapters

2413
01:43:43,510 --> 01:43:41,440
later with nephilim or on the earth when

2414
01:43:45,669 --> 01:43:43,520
the sons of god saw the daughters of men

2415
01:43:47,830 --> 01:43:45,679
that they were beautiful they took wives

2416
01:43:50,070 --> 01:43:47,840
from whoever they chose they went into

2417
01:43:52,470 --> 01:43:50,080
them in the biblical sense they produced

2418
01:43:54,229 --> 01:43:52,480
offspring these were the men of renown

2419
01:43:55,910 --> 01:43:54,239
the nephilim and the earth the nephilim

2420
01:43:57,910 --> 01:43:55,920
were on the earth in those days and also

2421
01:43:59,750 --> 01:43:57,920
afterwards when the sons of god took

2422
01:44:02,149 --> 01:43:59,760
wives went into them these were the the

2423
01:44:03,990 --> 01:44:02,159
men of renown the nephilim were on the

2424
01:44:06,629 --> 01:44:04,000
earth jesus says to be like the days of

2425
01:44:08,229 --> 01:44:06,639
noah the days of noah the hallmark of

2426
01:44:10,229 --> 01:44:08,239
the days of noah are the nephilim were

2427
01:44:11,830 --> 01:44:10,239
on the earth well guess what nephilim

2428
01:44:13,750 --> 01:44:11,840
are hybrid they're part fallen angel

2429
01:44:16,390 --> 01:44:13,760
part women of earth what do we have here

2430
01:44:17,910 --> 01:44:16,400
with the abduction phenomena look what i

2431
01:44:20,310 --> 01:44:17,920
believe and what tim believes it's a

2432
01:44:22,310 --> 01:44:20,320
unified theory it takes everything

2433
01:44:25,030 --> 01:44:22,320
together and it just dovetails it and it

2434
01:44:26,870 --> 01:44:25,040
fits if you don't know that you can you

2435
01:44:29,270 --> 01:44:26,880
you'll just spit off and well it might

2436
01:44:31,430 --> 01:44:29,280
be you know the the zetas it might be

2437
01:44:33,430 --> 01:44:31,440
the you know the tall whites it might be

2438
01:44:35,590 --> 01:44:33,440
this they have the ability the greek

2439
01:44:37,990 --> 01:44:35,600
word is called meniscus monocyte they

2440
01:44:40,149 --> 01:44:38,000
can and russ dizdar taught me this

2441
01:44:42,390 --> 01:44:40,159
they can change their shape they can

2442
01:44:44,950 --> 01:44:42,400
appear as anything that they want to

2443
01:44:47,189 --> 01:44:44,960
male female chimera they can they can

2444
01:44:49,030 --> 01:44:47,199
they can change their shape at will

2445
01:44:51,189 --> 01:44:49,040
metas gets monocyte that's the greek

2446
01:44:53,189 --> 01:44:51,199
word the ability to transmogrify

2447
01:44:54,950 --> 01:44:53,199
themselves and they do it and they do it

2448
01:44:55,750 --> 01:44:54,960
over and over and over again

2449
01:44:57,830 --> 01:44:55,760
um

2450
01:45:00,629 --> 01:44:57,840
the object what we see

2451
01:45:02,950 --> 01:45:00,639
the days of noah the hallmark is this

2452
01:45:03,990 --> 01:45:02,960
breeding program well what's going on

2453
01:45:05,910 --> 01:45:04,000
now

2454
01:45:08,070 --> 01:45:05,920
you tell me it's exactly the same thing

2455
01:45:10,310 --> 01:45:08,080
that's happening in modernity sperm is

2456
01:45:12,390 --> 01:45:10,320
taken from the men over from the women

2457
01:45:14,870 --> 01:45:12,400
hybrids are being created hybrids

2458
01:45:17,910 --> 01:45:14,880
walking amongst us the title of dr david

2459
01:45:19,510 --> 01:45:17,920
jacob's book now david jacobs i've i've

2460
01:45:21,430 --> 01:45:19,520
been with him two or three times i've

2461
01:45:23,990 --> 01:45:21,440
interviewed him he's in our watchers

2462
01:45:26,550 --> 01:45:24,000
series fantastic interview i know he's

2463
01:45:28,870 --> 01:45:26,560
kind of on you know not

2464
01:45:30,550 --> 01:45:28,880
um last time i checked he wasn't doing

2465
01:45:32,229 --> 01:45:30,560
so well hopefully he's feeling better

2466
01:45:34,470 --> 01:45:32,239
we'll see what happens but you know the

2467
01:45:37,430 --> 01:45:34,480
bottom line is this that

2468
01:45:39,750 --> 01:45:37,440
he has no supernatural worldview like i

2469
01:45:41,510 --> 01:45:39,760
do but he's come to the same conclusion

2470
01:45:43,030 --> 01:45:41,520
he believes there's a nefarious agenda

2471
01:45:44,470 --> 01:45:43,040
here and so do i

2472
01:45:46,629 --> 01:45:44,480
their seed will mingle with the seed

2473
01:45:49,030 --> 01:45:46,639
amendment they will not cleave to them

2474
01:45:51,830 --> 01:45:49,040
uh ancient prophetic texts about 2500

2475
01:45:53,109 --> 01:45:51,840
years old and it's just sitting there

2476
01:45:54,550 --> 01:45:53,119
so

2477
01:45:57,669 --> 01:45:54,560
before people who are listening to the

2478
01:45:59,750 --> 01:45:57,679
show begin to throw all this away

2479
01:46:01,669 --> 01:45:59,760
if you think you have any idea what i'm

2480
01:46:04,070 --> 01:46:01,679
talking about and you've never read the

2481
01:46:05,189 --> 01:46:04,080
biblical narrative good luck because you

2482
01:46:07,910 --> 01:46:05,199
don't know

2483
01:46:09,750 --> 01:46:07,920
and that book is live

2484
01:46:11,350 --> 01:46:09,760
but you need a key to open it without

2485
01:46:13,350 --> 01:46:11,360
the key to open it you can read it to

2486
01:46:14,470 --> 01:46:13,360
the cows come home good luck with that

2487
01:46:16,550 --> 01:46:14,480
you need the key because it's

2488
01:46:18,310 --> 01:46:16,560
supernatural that book is supernatural

2489
01:46:21,270 --> 01:46:18,320
and i'm just thought i'm not i must not

2490
01:46:22,629 --> 01:46:21,280
this isn't lip service this is i'm 71 in

2491
01:46:24,470 --> 01:46:22,639
december okay

2492
01:46:27,109 --> 01:46:24,480
i've been doing this for 41 years i'm

2493
01:46:30,310 --> 01:46:27,119
telling you exactly everything i know i

2494
01:46:32,709 --> 01:46:30,320
might be cloaking it i'm not this is it

2495
01:46:35,910 --> 01:46:32,719
that book is supernatural in origin it's

2496
01:46:38,390 --> 01:46:35,920
supernatural now it's alive um it will

2497
01:46:40,950 --> 01:46:38,400
teach you things but you need the spirit

2498
01:46:42,870 --> 01:46:40,960
of a living god in you to open that book

2499
01:46:45,030 --> 01:46:42,880
that's that's the key when a person

2500
01:46:46,470 --> 01:46:45,040
accepts except christ as their lord and

2501
01:46:48,229 --> 01:46:46,480
the spirit of the living god comes into

2502
01:46:50,390 --> 01:46:48,239
them that's the key all of a sudden that

2503
01:46:52,310 --> 01:46:50,400
book and it's just it's like layers of

2504
01:46:53,990 --> 01:46:52,320
an onion it goes on and on and on and on

2505
01:46:55,669 --> 01:46:54,000
forever there's just no end to it

2506
01:46:57,830 --> 01:46:55,679
there's just no end to it it's

2507
01:47:01,189 --> 01:46:57,840
absolutely profound but what it talks

2508
01:47:03,030 --> 01:47:01,199
about is the seed war with the dragon

2509
01:47:04,870 --> 01:47:03,040
and these hybrids that are walking

2510
01:47:07,030 --> 01:47:04,880
amongst us it happened in the days of

2511
01:47:09,270 --> 01:47:07,040
noah it's hap it happened afterwards

2512
01:47:10,950 --> 01:47:09,280
when the nephilim roamed the earth we

2513
01:47:12,870 --> 01:47:10,960
that's the whole point of my series this

2514
01:47:14,870 --> 01:47:12,880
is a seven part series on the trail of a

2515
01:47:16,629 --> 01:47:14,880
nephilim we go all over the planet

2516
01:47:21,350 --> 01:47:16,639
megalithic sites american stonehenge

2517
01:47:22,870 --> 01:47:21,360
stonehenge england um uh carnac france

2518
01:47:24,790 --> 01:47:22,880
i mean everywhere we've been everywhere

2519
01:47:25,910 --> 01:47:24,800
for crying out loud israel the wheel of

2520
01:47:30,149 --> 01:47:25,920
the giant

2521
01:47:31,430 --> 01:47:30,159
gilda raphaem sardinia gozo malta

2522
01:47:33,990 --> 01:47:31,440
france

2523
01:47:34,830 --> 01:47:34,000
portugal we've been everywhere peru yep

2524
01:47:37,669 --> 01:47:34,840
yep

2525
01:47:39,830 --> 01:47:37,679
um let me let me let me ask you

2526
01:47:41,830 --> 01:47:39,840
something uh direct

2527
01:47:43,990 --> 01:47:41,840
um

2528
01:47:45,750 --> 01:47:44,000
what is happening here

2529
01:47:48,470 --> 01:47:45,760
on this planet

2530
01:47:50,470 --> 01:47:48,480
it has to be

2531
01:47:51,990 --> 01:47:50,480
universal it's got to be throughout the

2532
01:47:54,950 --> 01:47:52,000
universe

2533
01:47:56,149 --> 01:47:54,960
right i mean it would have to be the

2534
01:47:58,229 --> 01:47:56,159
same

2535
01:48:01,109 --> 01:47:58,239
everywhere

2536
01:48:04,070 --> 01:48:01,119
right i mean it can't we can't be that

2537
01:48:06,950 --> 01:48:04,080
centric

2538
01:48:08,870 --> 01:48:06,960
well it goes back to my my statement

2539
01:48:11,030 --> 01:48:08,880
before the break if this is a

2540
01:48:12,790 --> 01:48:11,040
holographic universe all bets are off

2541
01:48:16,070 --> 01:48:12,800
then i don't know what this is right

2542
01:48:18,629 --> 01:48:16,080
right if if the god god almighty el

2543
01:48:21,430 --> 01:48:18,639
shaddai is going to roll up the universe

2544
01:48:23,830 --> 01:48:21,440
like a scroll if that's literal then

2545
01:48:25,430 --> 01:48:23,840
what the heck are we what is this

2546
01:48:27,350 --> 01:48:25,440
what are we really looking at here and

2547
01:48:28,950 --> 01:48:27,360
we don't know you know

2548
01:48:31,270 --> 01:48:28,960
original statement we don't know when

2549
01:48:33,990 --> 01:48:31,280
you said that earlier um you know what

2550
01:48:35,750 --> 01:48:34,000
that reminded me of

2551
01:48:39,510 --> 01:48:35,760
you have to go with me on this it

2552
01:48:41,430 --> 01:48:39,520
reminds me of brian green's explanation

2553
01:48:43,510 --> 01:48:41,440
of string theory

2554
01:48:46,629 --> 01:48:43,520
and 11 dimensions

2555
01:48:47,990 --> 01:48:46,639
and how it's it's it's rolled up rolled

2556
01:48:49,990 --> 01:48:48,000
up yeah

2557
01:48:52,390 --> 01:48:50,000
yeah yeah and

2558
01:48:55,430 --> 01:48:52,400
uh one day

2559
01:48:57,750 --> 01:48:55,440
physics science and religion and the

2560
01:49:00,310 --> 01:48:57,760
consciousness community are gonna hit

2561
01:49:02,070 --> 01:49:00,320
head-on man

2562
01:49:04,709 --> 01:49:02,080
you know what i mean bring basically

2563
01:49:07,430 --> 01:49:04,719
bring it on i mean at some point um all

2564
01:49:09,350 --> 01:49:07,440
this is going to be revealed prophecy is

2565
01:49:12,310 --> 01:49:09,360
is unfolding right in front of us what

2566
01:49:14,070 --> 01:49:12,320
was what was foretold is unfolding

2567
01:49:15,990 --> 01:49:14,080
you know what what was foretold is

2568
01:49:17,830 --> 01:49:16,000
unfolding even as we speak it's just

2569
01:49:19,750 --> 01:49:17,840
mind-boggling to see what what's

2570
01:49:21,350 --> 01:49:19,760
happening on the planet now

2571
01:49:22,790 --> 01:49:21,360
if we're going to put this on a linear

2572
01:49:25,750 --> 01:49:22,800
time scale

2573
01:49:28,390 --> 01:49:25,760
um because the way that the vibe i've

2574
01:49:30,310 --> 01:49:28,400
never understood the concept of a year

2575
01:49:32,950 --> 01:49:30,320
with the bible it doesn't make any sense

2576
01:49:34,310 --> 01:49:32,960
to me maybe it's not supposed to but

2577
01:49:37,350 --> 01:49:34,320
um

2578
01:49:39,189 --> 01:49:37,360
in looking at that and going to

2579
01:49:40,709 --> 01:49:39,199
uh some of the sumerian texts and of

2580
01:49:44,550 --> 01:49:40,719
course sitchin

2581
01:49:47,109 --> 01:49:44,560
and in the comments about the ages of

2582
01:49:49,270 --> 01:49:47,119
everything going back a hundred thousand

2583
01:49:51,910 --> 01:49:49,280
two hundred thousand four hundred

2584
01:49:53,830 --> 01:49:51,920
thousand years that this has been going

2585
01:49:55,510 --> 01:49:53,840
on does that correlate with your

2586
01:49:57,589 --> 01:49:55,520
research

2587
01:49:59,669 --> 01:49:57,599
well yes and no we know that something

2588
01:50:01,669 --> 01:49:59,679
cataclysmic happened on this planet in

2589
01:50:03,750 --> 01:50:01,679
the far distant past we know that we see

2590
01:50:06,870 --> 01:50:03,760
vestiges of it when you go to places

2591
01:50:08,470 --> 01:50:06,880
like oiji tantambo in in peru

2592
01:50:11,109 --> 01:50:08,480
something happened there

2593
01:50:13,830 --> 01:50:11,119
um you know that that whatever it was

2594
01:50:16,629 --> 01:50:13,840
was blown apart by something uh when you

2595
01:50:19,430 --> 01:50:16,639
go to a place like like gilgal raphael

2596
01:50:21,270 --> 01:50:19,440
um it could be in in the chocolate

2597
01:50:23,189 --> 01:50:21,280
before the neolithic in other words now

2598
01:50:24,470 --> 01:50:23,199
we're back you know five thousand six

2599
01:50:26,470 --> 01:50:24,480
thousand years

2600
01:50:29,510 --> 01:50:26,480
uh when you go to places like go beckley

2601
01:50:32,310 --> 01:50:29,520
tepee what the heck is that why bury

2602
01:50:35,270 --> 01:50:32,320
this thing who did that we don't know

2603
01:50:37,910 --> 01:50:35,280
our origins look i say this every day on

2604
01:50:39,350 --> 01:50:37,920
my own show there is a hidden history

2605
01:50:41,189 --> 01:50:39,360
that has been deliberately obfuscated

2606
01:50:43,189 --> 01:50:41,199
from the peoples of the world there is a

2607
01:50:46,070 --> 01:50:43,199
hidden history there are a message of

2608
01:50:48,390 --> 01:50:46,080
messages of it all over the place but

2609
01:50:51,669 --> 01:50:48,400
mainstream archaeology mainstream

2610
01:50:53,910 --> 01:50:51,679
academia they because it points to

2611
01:50:55,910 --> 01:50:53,920
something that they don't understand

2612
01:50:57,109 --> 01:50:55,920
and i'll give you one example

2613
01:50:58,790 --> 01:50:57,119
in a minute

2614
01:51:00,709 --> 01:50:58,800
they they just

2615
01:51:03,189 --> 01:51:00,719
sweep it under the rug and that that's

2616
01:51:05,669 --> 01:51:03,199
the status quo here's the deal

2617
01:51:08,149 --> 01:51:05,679
many of these sites stonehenge on stone

2618
01:51:12,310 --> 01:51:08,159
engine and america america stonehenge

2619
01:51:17,350 --> 01:51:14,310
not gilgal raphaem but

2620
01:51:19,910 --> 01:51:17,360
karnak certain areas in karnak

2621
01:51:22,070 --> 01:51:19,920
certain certain megalithic sites all

2622
01:51:24,229 --> 01:51:22,080
over europe they're built on an 18 and a

2623
01:51:26,390 --> 01:51:24,239
half year lunar cycle the great the

2624
01:51:28,229 --> 01:51:26,400
great octagon mound in ohio built on an

2625
01:51:30,709 --> 01:51:28,239
18 and a half year unicycle in fact in

2626
01:51:33,030 --> 01:51:30,719
2025 the lunar standstill is going to

2627
01:51:35,109 --> 01:51:33,040
happen right over the octagon now so

2628
01:51:36,390 --> 01:51:35,119
let's just go there so the octagon mount

2629
01:51:38,950 --> 01:51:36,400
is in ohio

2630
01:51:41,589 --> 01:51:38,960
the octagon is an irregular octagon

2631
01:51:43,910 --> 01:51:41,599
and it encompasses 50 acres so whoever

2632
01:51:46,310 --> 01:51:43,920
did this is building this octagon and

2633
01:51:48,709 --> 01:51:46,320
basically the ground was flat and all

2634
01:51:51,270 --> 01:51:48,719
these all these hillocks create an

2635
01:51:53,830 --> 01:51:51,280
octagon how will you check your work

2636
01:51:55,990 --> 01:51:53,840
unless you're in the air how and and who

2637
01:51:57,270 --> 01:51:56,000
did this and why but here's the kicker

2638
01:51:59,270 --> 01:51:57,280
jimmy

2639
01:52:02,149 --> 01:51:59,280
it's built on an 18 and a half year

2640
01:52:03,990 --> 01:52:02,159
lunar cycle europeans 4 000 years ago

2641
01:52:05,990 --> 01:52:04,000
did they know about it some did most

2642
01:52:07,990 --> 01:52:06,000
didn't and there's a there's an ancient

2643
01:52:10,629 --> 01:52:08,000
text in the book of enoch which says

2644
01:52:13,430 --> 01:52:10,639
that this information was given to

2645
01:52:15,669 --> 01:52:13,440
mankind by a fallen angel by the name of

2646
01:52:17,510 --> 01:52:15,679
sariel according to the book of enoch

2647
01:52:19,990 --> 01:52:17,520
phantom of dead sea scrolls

2648
01:52:24,070 --> 01:52:22,470
the 18 and a half year lunar cycle is

2649
01:52:27,030 --> 01:52:24,080
really complex and i'll give you a

2650
01:52:29,830 --> 01:52:27,040
thumbnail why it is if you and i came

2651
01:52:31,270 --> 01:52:29,840
fell to earth 4 000 years ago and you

2652
01:52:32,629 --> 01:52:31,280
and i are standing there and go jimmy

2653
01:52:35,189 --> 01:52:32,639
look full moon you go wow it's really

2654
01:52:36,310 --> 01:52:35,199
cool and i go gee you know the last

2655
01:52:37,990 --> 01:52:36,320
couple of nights we've been out here

2656
01:52:40,070 --> 01:52:38,000
looking at this it seems like the moon

2657
01:52:42,229 --> 01:52:40,080
comes up in one place and then sets in

2658
01:52:43,589 --> 01:52:42,239
another place and you go yeah la maybe

2659
01:52:45,589 --> 01:52:43,599
we should try to track that they go

2660
01:52:47,350 --> 01:52:45,599
jimmy it's a great idea so four thousand

2661
01:52:49,669 --> 01:52:47,360
years ago we get some steaks there's the

2662
01:52:52,070 --> 01:52:49,679
moon jimmy we found a mistake in we walk

2663
01:52:53,510 --> 01:52:52,080
over we wake up all night the moon sets

2664
01:52:55,430 --> 01:52:53,520
we pound the never stake and we take a

2665
01:52:59,030 --> 01:52:55,440
piece of deer hide we take a little bit

2666
01:53:00,709 --> 01:52:59,040
of red ochre we try to you know somehow

2667
01:53:02,470 --> 01:53:00,719
chart the thing on a deer hive next

2668
01:53:04,149 --> 01:53:02,480
night we come out moon comes up in a

2669
01:53:06,790 --> 01:53:04,159
slightly different place bang the stake

2670
01:53:08,310 --> 01:53:06,800
in go over sit up all night watch the

2671
01:53:10,950 --> 01:53:08,320
thing we don't know how long we're going

2672
01:53:13,189 --> 01:53:10,960
to be there okay so we do this for 30

2673
01:53:15,589 --> 01:53:13,199
days we're going pretty cool and we see

2674
01:53:17,430 --> 01:53:15,599
that this thing is moving around but we

2675
01:53:19,589 --> 01:53:17,440
have no idea where we are

2676
01:53:21,589 --> 01:53:19,599
and we keep crunching the data as best

2677
01:53:24,390 --> 01:53:21,599
we can then all of a sudden the five day

2678
01:53:25,990 --> 01:53:24,400
rain storm moves in fog moves in

2679
01:53:27,750 --> 01:53:26,000
everything goes pitch black fade the

2680
01:53:30,149 --> 01:53:27,760
black we can't see the moon we got to

2681
01:53:32,470 --> 01:53:30,159
start all over again

2682
01:53:35,350 --> 01:53:32,480
here's the deal are we when we're doing

2683
01:53:36,310 --> 01:53:35,360
this are we in year three you're 17

2684
01:53:41,589 --> 01:53:36,320
right

2685
01:53:43,589 --> 01:53:41,599
the data give me a flipping break this

2686
01:53:44,709 --> 01:53:43,599
is the elephant in the room which they

2687
01:53:46,629 --> 01:53:44,719
don't address and you know what the

2688
01:53:47,990 --> 01:53:46,639
archaeologists well they knew about it

2689
01:53:49,910 --> 01:53:48,000
that means that they knew about it they

2690
01:53:53,189 --> 01:53:49,920
must have known about it that's a strong

2691
01:53:55,030 --> 01:53:53,199
man argument native americans did not

2692
01:53:57,830 --> 01:53:55,040
know about the 18 and a half year lunar

2693
01:53:59,669 --> 01:53:57,840
cycle most europeans 4 000 years ago did

2694
01:54:02,070 --> 01:53:59,679
not know about the 18 and a half year

2695
01:54:04,550 --> 01:54:02,080
metonic or lunar cycle it was handed to

2696
01:54:06,629 --> 01:54:04,560
us all these sites i just mentioned are

2697
01:54:09,589 --> 01:54:06,639
based on an 18 and a half year lunar

2698
01:54:11,589 --> 01:54:09,599
cycle something is going on here

2699
01:54:15,669 --> 01:54:11,599
something is going on

2700
01:54:19,350 --> 01:54:15,679
and that something is the dragon now

2701
01:54:23,189 --> 01:54:19,360
what about gobekli tappy i mean

2702
01:54:24,390 --> 01:54:23,199
i think that that is something uh i mean

2703
01:54:27,109 --> 01:54:24,400
to your point

2704
01:54:31,270 --> 01:54:27,119
that has been swept under the rug when

2705
01:54:33,830 --> 01:54:31,280
when gobekli tepe was uh first revealed

2706
01:54:37,669 --> 01:54:33,840
i thought to myself that this was going

2707
01:54:38,870 --> 01:54:37,679
to be headline news around the world for

2708
01:54:42,149 --> 01:54:38,880
decades

2709
01:54:45,830 --> 01:54:42,159
i mean this was not supposed to be

2710
01:54:49,109 --> 01:54:45,840
not by by 7 000 years

2711
01:54:51,270 --> 01:54:49,119
right older than giza right this this is

2712
01:54:53,430 --> 01:54:51,280
this and and and now the question is how

2713
01:54:55,990 --> 01:54:53,440
many other gobekli tepes are there well

2714
01:54:58,229 --> 01:54:56,000
we found a second one there's now a

2715
01:55:01,830 --> 01:54:58,239
second one there uh they found another

2716
01:55:03,669 --> 01:55:01,840
11 around go back lee tappi so that is

2717
01:55:05,350 --> 01:55:03,679
uh 13

2718
01:55:07,589 --> 01:55:05,360
and they're going to be excavating there

2719
01:55:10,310 --> 01:55:07,599
for a while but that's just there on the

2720
01:55:12,229 --> 01:55:10,320
border of syria and modern-day turkey

2721
01:55:13,109 --> 01:55:12,239
right now what about the rest of the

2722
01:55:15,430 --> 01:55:13,119
world

2723
01:55:18,229 --> 01:55:15,440
right and if that is on an 18 and a half

2724
01:55:20,390 --> 01:55:18,239
we don't even know what gobekli tepe

2725
01:55:22,229 --> 01:55:20,400
represents we don't know we don't know

2726
01:55:24,390 --> 01:55:22,239
if it's religious if it's

2727
01:55:27,189 --> 01:55:24,400
uh astronomical

2728
01:55:30,310 --> 01:55:27,199
we don't know we don't know its purpose

2729
01:55:33,430 --> 01:55:30,320
right but what if it is an 18 and a half

2730
01:55:37,030 --> 01:55:33,440
year lunar cycle now explain that to me

2731
01:55:38,950 --> 01:55:37,040
12 000 years ago exactly exactly where

2732
01:55:40,629 --> 01:55:38,960
it is where does it come from look there

2733
01:55:42,149 --> 01:55:40,639
is a hidden history

2734
01:55:43,430 --> 01:55:42,159
that has been deliberately obfuscated

2735
01:55:45,669 --> 01:55:43,440
from the peoples of the world most

2736
01:55:48,390 --> 01:55:45,679
people look you know what's the average

2737
01:55:51,510 --> 01:55:48,400
lifespan 65 70 years old

2738
01:55:53,350 --> 01:55:51,520
right and so you know who's got time

2739
01:55:55,350 --> 01:55:53,360
you know and and that that goes like

2740
01:55:57,030 --> 01:55:55,360
this that's just like a it's a flash in

2741
01:55:59,030 --> 01:55:57,040
the pan and we're gone

2742
01:56:01,030 --> 01:55:59,040
um you know again i turned 71 in

2743
01:56:02,870 --> 01:56:01,040
december my mortality

2744
01:56:05,189 --> 01:56:02,880
i'm not morbid about it but i realize

2745
01:56:07,669 --> 01:56:05,199
you know how much more time do i have

2746
01:56:09,669 --> 01:56:07,679
that's why i try to make every day count

2747
01:56:11,030 --> 01:56:09,679
and and i keep researching and keep

2748
01:56:11,830 --> 01:56:11,040
doing what i do

2749
01:56:13,990 --> 01:56:11,840
but

2750
01:56:16,070 --> 01:56:14,000
we'll never ha i know i will never have

2751
01:56:19,270 --> 01:56:16,080
all the answers no one ever will

2752
01:56:20,470 --> 01:56:19,280
but we we keep pressing forward and we

2753
01:56:22,870 --> 01:56:20,480
we try to

2754
01:56:24,229 --> 01:56:22,880
discern and decipher

2755
01:56:26,390 --> 01:56:24,239
our origins

2756
01:56:27,350 --> 01:56:26,400
and there's really two choices we either

2757
01:56:29,189 --> 01:56:27,360
believe

2758
01:56:31,189 --> 01:56:29,199
in the creation theory of the of the

2759
01:56:33,270 --> 01:56:31,199
biblical narrative or we believe in

2760
01:56:35,189 --> 01:56:33,280
darwinism that this whole thing just

2761
01:56:37,109 --> 01:56:35,199
happened accidentally

2762
01:56:39,830 --> 01:56:37,119
over billions of years blah blah blah

2763
01:56:40,870 --> 01:56:39,840
blah but again going back to our

2764
01:56:41,750 --> 01:56:40,880
original

2765
01:56:43,669 --> 01:56:41,760
uh

2766
01:56:45,990 --> 01:56:43,679
when we first started chatting

2767
01:56:48,229 --> 01:56:46,000
um where does consciousness reside and

2768
01:56:50,070 --> 01:56:48,239
what is it and nobody knows and that

2769
01:56:51,990 --> 01:56:50,080
should keep people awake at night

2770
01:56:53,830 --> 01:56:52,000
because where are you jimmy where are

2771
01:56:55,669 --> 01:56:53,840
you right now okay you know you're not

2772
01:56:58,709 --> 01:56:55,679
you're in your little three-dimensional

2773
01:57:01,430 --> 01:56:58,719
biological bodysuit just like i am but i

2774
01:57:03,750 --> 01:57:01,440
know that i'm really not this i'm in it

2775
01:57:05,109 --> 01:57:03,760
it works really well most of the time

2776
01:57:07,109 --> 01:57:05,119
but that's not

2777
01:57:09,189 --> 01:57:07,119
who i am that's not the essence of l.a

2778
01:57:11,430 --> 01:57:09,199
marzulli just like your little shell

2779
01:57:13,510 --> 01:57:11,440
there is not the essence of jimmy church

2780
01:57:14,870 --> 01:57:13,520
there's something else going on and when

2781
01:57:17,830 --> 01:57:14,880
you look at the intricacies of the

2782
01:57:20,550 --> 01:57:17,840
reproduction system the human eye the

2783
01:57:22,709 --> 01:57:20,560
the the interface the the interplay

2784
01:57:24,950 --> 01:57:22,719
between different systems and how they

2785
01:57:26,950 --> 01:57:24,960
work in the human body give me a flip

2786
01:57:29,270 --> 01:57:26,960
flip and break and of course darwin had

2787
01:57:32,149 --> 01:57:29,280
no idea of a deoxyribonucleic spiral

2788
01:57:33,910 --> 01:57:32,159
hero spiral of life the dna molecular

2789
01:57:35,189 --> 01:57:33,920
structure he didn't know about that and

2790
01:57:36,709 --> 01:57:35,199
if he had known about that he probably

2791
01:57:39,430 --> 01:57:36,719
would have gone whoops we'll just take

2792
01:57:41,189 --> 01:57:39,440
this right off the shelf because uh i

2793
01:57:43,350 --> 01:57:41,199
remember when ben steins to stand on his

2794
01:57:45,270 --> 01:57:43,360
fantastic film expelled sits down with

2795
01:57:46,790 --> 01:57:45,280
richard dawkins and says well where did

2796
01:57:48,870 --> 01:57:46,800
this come from and daca says we don't

2797
01:57:51,830 --> 01:57:48,880
know we don't know where the first sup

2798
01:57:53,430 --> 01:57:51,840
sub-replicating molecule came from so

2799
01:57:55,350 --> 01:57:53,440
science throws a bummer where do you

2800
01:57:57,030 --> 01:57:55,360
think it came from he said well maybe

2801
01:57:58,629 --> 01:57:57,040
far far away in another galaxy you know

2802
01:58:01,189 --> 01:57:58,639
you were created by extraterrestrials

2803
01:58:03,750 --> 01:58:01,199
that's what the ancient alien theorists

2804
01:58:06,390 --> 01:58:03,760
pose and posit every single friday right

2805
01:58:08,390 --> 01:58:06,400
i get that i totally get that but a

2806
01:58:12,070 --> 01:58:08,400
circular reasoning where did they come

2807
01:58:14,790 --> 01:58:12,080
from who made their dna because the dna

2808
01:58:16,390 --> 01:58:14,800
is the codex of all life everywhere and

2809
01:58:19,270 --> 01:58:16,400
everybody's got it everything on this

2810
01:58:20,870 --> 01:58:19,280
planet has that dna strand in it and you

2811
01:58:21,669 --> 01:58:20,880
know the biblical narrative just says

2812
01:58:23,430 --> 01:58:21,679
this

2813
01:58:25,430 --> 01:58:23,440
that all things were created by him and

2814
01:58:27,669 --> 01:58:25,440
for him is before all things and he

2815
01:58:29,589 --> 01:58:27,679
holds all things together now we can

2816
01:58:32,550 --> 01:58:29,599
believe that and of course the key is

2817
01:58:34,629 --> 01:58:32,560
yeshua is jesus that's who it is

2818
01:58:36,870 --> 01:58:34,639
we can believe that or we can believe

2819
01:58:39,270 --> 01:58:36,880
the fiction of darwinism both of them

2820
01:58:42,390 --> 01:58:39,280
take an enormous amount of faith because

2821
01:58:45,189 --> 01:58:42,400
you know but but the bible is extremely

2822
01:58:47,669 --> 01:58:45,199
specific all things were created by him

2823
01:58:48,390 --> 01:58:47,679
for him he is before all things and get

2824
01:58:52,709 --> 01:58:48,400
this

2825
01:58:55,109 --> 01:58:52,719
he holds all things together

2826
01:58:57,910 --> 01:58:55,119
and that's mind-boggling that's why you

2827
01:59:00,470 --> 01:58:57,920
are la marzulli let me let me i'm gonna

2828
01:59:03,510 --> 01:59:00,480
i'm gonna leave you with this as i thank

2829
01:59:05,189 --> 01:59:03,520
you for coming uh on the show tonight

2830
01:59:08,870 --> 01:59:05,199
but i'm gonna leave you with this the

2831
01:59:10,950 --> 01:59:08,880
most spiritual person on this planet

2832
01:59:13,430 --> 01:59:10,960
is richard dawkins when the plane is

2833
01:59:15,109 --> 01:59:13,440
going down

2834
01:59:17,910 --> 01:59:15,119
i'll just leave it at that

2835
01:59:20,070 --> 01:59:17,920
la you are absolutely magical you are

2836
01:59:22,149 --> 01:59:20,080
the very best my friend it's great to

2837
01:59:23,109 --> 01:59:22,159
see you you look great good luck on the

2838
01:59:25,589 --> 01:59:23,119
house

2839
01:59:27,990 --> 01:59:25,599
and uh appreciate it you gotta come back

2840
01:59:31,109 --> 01:59:28,000
uh uh very soon next month and let's

2841
01:59:32,870 --> 01:59:31,119
just do a full show and hang out

2842
01:59:35,109 --> 01:59:32,880
count on my friend thank you so much and

2843
01:59:39,270 --> 01:59:35,119
god bless you're the very best

2844
01:59:42,470 --> 01:59:39,280
l.a marzulli and his contributions uh to

2845
01:59:44,070 --> 01:59:42,480
the film are absolutely extraordinary i

2846
01:59:45,669 --> 01:59:44,080
want you to go and check that out i

2847
01:59:47,189 --> 01:59:45,679
didn't want to do any spoilers tonight

2848
01:59:48,950 --> 01:59:47,199
on the show

2849
01:59:51,430 --> 01:59:48,960
not gonna do that check out the film

2850
01:59:53,350 --> 01:59:51,440
tonight extraordinary the revelations

2851
01:59:55,109 --> 01:59:53,360
the links are below

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i'll be right back

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02:04:43,560 --> 02:04:39,750
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02:04:57,270 --> 02:04:43,570
on the game changer radio network

2948
02:04:59,109 --> 02:04:57,280
[Music]

2949
02:05:01,189 --> 02:04:59,119
welcome back fade to black i am your

2950
02:05:03,189 --> 02:05:01,199
host jimmy church what a great night on

2951
02:05:04,870 --> 02:05:03,199
the show

2952
02:05:07,510 --> 02:05:04,880
tonight is the world premiere for

2953
02:05:09,189 --> 02:05:07,520
extraordinary the revelations earlier

2954
02:05:10,149 --> 02:05:09,199
tonight we heard from director john

2955
02:05:12,390 --> 02:05:10,159
supple

2956
02:05:15,669 --> 02:05:12,400
i want to thank la marzulli for stopping

2957
02:05:18,790 --> 02:05:15,679
by tonight man so much knowledge

2958
02:05:22,390 --> 02:05:18,800
inside of his head and right now

2959
02:05:23,130 --> 02:05:22,400
it's lori wagner lori

2960
02:05:25,830 --> 02:05:23,140
thank you

2961
02:05:28,390 --> 02:05:25,840
[Laughter]

2962
02:05:29,910 --> 02:05:28,400
thank you jimmy for having me and john

2963
02:05:31,910 --> 02:05:29,920
in l.a

2964
02:05:34,229 --> 02:05:31,920
how you doing

2965
02:05:35,350 --> 02:05:34,239
i'm doing good i really am you know i'm

2966
02:05:37,430 --> 02:05:35,360
excited

2967
02:05:38,550 --> 02:05:37,440
it's got to be here it is the world

2968
02:05:40,790 --> 02:05:38,560
premiere

2969
02:05:42,790 --> 02:05:40,800
and and i look at it like this it's like

2970
02:05:44,629 --> 02:05:42,800
you know you've got

2971
02:05:45,750 --> 02:05:44,639
a bunch of baby goats

2972
02:05:48,229 --> 02:05:45,760
right

2973
02:05:50,390 --> 02:05:48,239
and a year later they're all grown up

2974
02:05:52,149 --> 02:05:50,400
you know and and that's that's what it's

2975
02:05:54,149 --> 02:05:52,159
like you get to

2976
02:05:56,629 --> 02:05:54,159
uh you've got so many projects in

2977
02:05:58,709 --> 02:05:56,639
production you're always out there

2978
02:06:01,669 --> 02:05:58,719
looking for new things to do

2979
02:06:03,669 --> 02:06:01,679
and then you get to see these ideas

2980
02:06:06,390 --> 02:06:03,679
right finish out and have a world

2981
02:06:08,149 --> 02:06:06,400
premiere is it kind of like that

2982
02:06:10,550 --> 02:06:08,159
it's exactly like that

2983
02:06:13,189 --> 02:06:10,560
it's so exciting to have it just

2984
02:06:15,189 --> 02:06:13,199
you know come to life like this

2985
02:06:16,550 --> 02:06:15,199
and you know the premiere that you were

2986
02:06:19,350 --> 02:06:16,560
at in pasadena

2987
02:06:21,350 --> 02:06:19,360
that was a really big moment because we

2988
02:06:23,589 --> 02:06:21,360
were there live you know obviously with

2989
02:06:25,430 --> 02:06:23,599
kovid we've all been held back

2990
02:06:26,470 --> 02:06:25,440
so it was even more special to be out

2991
02:06:28,629 --> 02:06:26,480
there

2992
02:06:31,669 --> 02:06:28,639
but yeah this is so exciting i can't

2993
02:06:33,669 --> 02:06:31,679
wait to just turn on amazon or apple tv

2994
02:06:35,510 --> 02:06:33,679
or voodoo and just have the film right

2995
02:06:38,950 --> 02:06:35,520
there

2996
02:06:41,430 --> 02:06:38,960
and and pay for it yourself right

2997
02:06:44,149 --> 02:06:41,440
that's true

2998
02:06:46,470 --> 02:06:44,159
i'll be doing it tonight and that's a

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good rewarding feeling

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02:06:48,629 --> 02:06:47,760
and uh

3001
02:06:51,030 --> 02:06:48,639
you know

3002
02:06:53,510 --> 02:06:51,040
watch the trailer right watch your own

3003
02:06:55,350 --> 02:06:53,520
trailer um one of the things i wanted to

3004
02:06:57,750 --> 02:06:55,360
ask you about that one of the things

3005
02:07:01,430 --> 02:06:57,760
that i i like to do

3006
02:07:04,390 --> 02:07:01,440
is have the experience that um

3007
02:07:08,310 --> 02:07:04,400
and relive it with my own stuff in that

3008
02:07:11,990 --> 02:07:08,320
when i'm out there uh in the netflix in

3009
02:07:13,669 --> 02:07:12,000
the you know in the amazon verse

3010
02:07:16,149 --> 02:07:13,679
and i see something that i i'm

3011
02:07:18,149 --> 02:07:16,159
interested in i watch the trailer

3012
02:07:19,910 --> 02:07:18,159
and i'll watch i'll watch like the first

3013
02:07:21,350 --> 02:07:19,920
30 seconds of it i don't want to watch

3014
02:07:23,270 --> 02:07:21,360
the whole thing because

3015
02:07:26,310 --> 02:07:23,280
generally that gives away you know what

3016
02:07:27,350 --> 02:07:26,320
you're watching but yeah i'll know right

3017
02:07:30,950 --> 02:07:27,360
then

3018
02:07:33,750 --> 02:07:30,960
purchase or not

3019
02:07:35,669 --> 02:07:33,760
and i like to do that with my own stuff

3020
02:07:38,470 --> 02:07:35,679
because that's the experience that

3021
02:07:39,830 --> 02:07:38,480
everybody else is is having do you do

3022
02:07:42,390 --> 02:07:39,840
the same thing

3023
02:07:44,950 --> 02:07:42,400
of course i do the exact same thing if

3024
02:07:47,430 --> 02:07:44,960
the trailer doesn't grab me in the first

3025
02:07:49,510 --> 02:07:47,440
like you said 30 to a minute

3026
02:07:51,830 --> 02:07:49,520
i'm not even gonna try to watch it

3027
02:07:53,669 --> 02:07:51,840
right it has to pull me in right away

3028
02:07:56,069 --> 02:07:53,679
whether i love the characters that i'm

3029
02:07:56,950 --> 02:07:56,079
seeing or even the opposite brings me

3030
02:07:57,990 --> 02:07:56,960
into

3031
02:08:00,709 --> 02:07:58,000
now

3032
02:08:02,470 --> 02:08:00,719
the idea for extraordinary the

3033
02:08:04,790 --> 02:08:02,480
revelations i kind of want to throw the

3034
02:08:06,950 --> 02:08:04,800
same question at you that that i threw

3035
02:08:08,550 --> 02:08:06,960
at jian early and i've certainly asked

3036
02:08:09,589 --> 02:08:08,560
this of jack

3037
02:08:12,149 --> 02:08:09,599
um

3038
02:08:14,550 --> 02:08:12,159
the idea for the film

3039
02:08:15,589 --> 02:08:14,560
in the beginning is always a discussion

3040
02:08:20,790 --> 02:08:15,599
and

3041
02:08:23,030 --> 02:08:20,800
but usually by the end it's not what you

3042
02:08:25,109 --> 02:08:23,040
discussed in the beginning

3043
02:08:28,870 --> 02:08:25,119
things morph into something else

3044
02:08:31,750 --> 02:08:28,880
um i didn't see it this time did did

3045
02:08:34,149 --> 02:08:31,760
from the original discussions

3046
02:08:36,950 --> 02:08:34,159
the what's premiering tonight is is that

3047
02:08:39,830 --> 02:08:36,960
what you guys envisioned

3048
02:08:41,830 --> 02:08:39,840
it was it actually what we discussed

3049
02:08:43,109 --> 02:08:41,840
about the three different beliefs

3050
02:08:45,350 --> 02:08:43,119
paradigms

3051
02:08:46,950 --> 02:08:45,360
and then adding in the whistleblowers

3052
02:08:49,270 --> 02:08:46,960
you know we had clifford stone and dan

3053
02:08:51,589 --> 02:08:49,280
sherman lynn buchanan

3054
02:08:52,470 --> 02:08:51,599
it all panned out the way we envisioned

3055
02:09:06,870 --> 02:08:52,480
it

3056
02:09:08,069 --> 02:09:06,880
now one of the uh the things that i've

3057
02:09:09,910 --> 02:09:08,079
certainly

3058
02:09:12,870 --> 02:09:09,920
expressed a lot about you and your

3059
02:09:14,470 --> 02:09:12,880
contributions uh to j3

3060
02:09:16,229 --> 02:09:14,480
is you

3061
02:09:19,109 --> 02:09:16,239
take it upon yourself

3062
02:09:21,750 --> 02:09:19,119
to go out there and check out the world

3063
02:09:24,069 --> 02:09:21,760
and i'm not going to reveal all of our

3064
02:09:27,589 --> 02:09:24,079
conversations that we have

3065
02:09:28,470 --> 02:09:27,599
or or the texts or or the things but

3066
02:09:32,149 --> 02:09:28,480
uh

3067
02:09:34,069 --> 02:09:32,159
you are constantly out there questioning

3068
02:09:37,109 --> 02:09:34,079
trying to figure things out

3069
02:09:41,270 --> 02:09:37,119
what what inspired you to get into this

3070
02:09:44,790 --> 02:09:41,280
community to do the research that you do

3071
02:09:47,510 --> 02:09:44,800
well actually i was when i grew up i was

3072
02:09:49,750 --> 02:09:47,520
really into ghost paranormal

3073
02:09:53,109 --> 02:09:49,760
you know reincarnation

3074
02:09:55,430 --> 02:09:53,119
the ufo part of it did not hit me until

3075
02:09:56,950 --> 02:09:55,440
i was probably in my 30s and it just

3076
02:09:59,109 --> 02:09:56,960
came out of nowhere i don't even know

3077
02:10:02,870 --> 02:09:59,119
where it came out of all of a sudden i

3078
02:10:05,189 --> 02:10:02,880
had an obsession with area 51.

3079
02:10:07,669 --> 02:10:05,199
so i went out there with my dad because

3080
02:10:08,629 --> 02:10:07,679
my dad worked in aerospace

3081
02:10:10,229 --> 02:10:08,639
and

3082
02:10:11,910 --> 02:10:10,239
that just started the whole thing i

3083
02:10:13,750 --> 02:10:11,920
started meeting people

3084
02:10:16,470 --> 02:10:13,760
going to conferences

3085
02:10:19,189 --> 02:10:16,480
the two meet people i first met yvonne

3086
02:10:21,030 --> 02:10:19,199
smith and paula harris

3087
02:10:23,270 --> 02:10:21,040
formed friendships with them started

3088
02:10:26,390 --> 02:10:23,280
working with them and that really pulled

3089
02:10:27,669 --> 02:10:26,400
me into the abduction side really with

3090
02:10:29,910 --> 02:10:27,679
yvonne

3091
02:10:32,550 --> 02:10:29,920
and that's where i still remain today is

3092
02:10:36,390 --> 02:10:32,560
the experiencers the abductees

3093
02:10:38,229 --> 02:10:36,400
i think they are disclosure i really do

3094
02:10:39,910 --> 02:10:38,239
because they are face to face whether

3095
02:10:42,950 --> 02:10:39,920
they're conscious of it or not it's

3096
02:10:45,750 --> 02:10:42,960
happening now i get to uh instruct the

3097
02:10:47,750 --> 02:10:45,760
executive producer on a technical

3098
02:10:50,709 --> 02:10:47,760
point at

3099
02:10:52,870 --> 02:10:50,719
in this show i'm almost nervous

3100
02:10:54,229 --> 02:10:52,880
you don't have to fidget with your

3101
02:10:56,550 --> 02:10:54,239
microphone

3102
02:10:58,069 --> 02:10:56,560
okay if you touch it again you're going

3103
02:10:59,990 --> 02:10:58,079
to hear from me first thing in the

3104
02:11:02,310 --> 02:11:00,000
morning

3105
02:11:03,750 --> 02:11:02,320
all right i hear you a deal okay yeah i

3106
02:11:09,030 --> 02:11:03,760
feel like

3107
02:11:11,589 --> 02:11:09,040
have um uh in your journeys

3108
02:11:15,510 --> 02:11:11,599
have you had

3109
02:11:19,910 --> 02:11:17,430
i have i've had a lot of different

3110
02:11:21,270 --> 02:11:19,920
experiences they first started out as

3111
02:11:25,430 --> 02:11:21,280
dreams

3112
02:11:28,310 --> 02:11:25,440
the sky the night sky

3113
02:11:29,750 --> 02:11:28,320
and objects just multiple objects in the

3114
02:11:32,310 --> 02:11:29,760
sky

3115
02:11:35,589 --> 02:11:32,320
then it kind of morphed into

3116
02:11:38,390 --> 02:11:35,599
i'm laying out on a table a metal table

3117
02:11:42,709 --> 02:11:38,400
with other people on metal tables i get

3118
02:11:48,870 --> 02:11:45,990
i've seen ufos before

3119
02:11:49,589 --> 02:11:48,880
i've had a lot of paranormal go with it

3120
02:11:51,430 --> 02:11:49,599
too

3121
02:11:53,510 --> 02:11:51,440
i think almost more in the paranormal

3122
02:11:56,069 --> 02:11:53,520
side i've been scratched

3123
02:11:58,790 --> 02:11:56,079
i've got photos i've had

3124
02:12:00,790 --> 02:11:58,800
four fingered fingerprints on my wall

3125
02:12:01,750 --> 02:12:00,800
that were shiny and iridescent really

3126
02:12:04,550 --> 02:12:01,760
long

3127
02:12:07,350 --> 02:12:04,560
kind of bulbous at the end

3128
02:12:09,030 --> 02:12:07,360
a lot of things happened when we uh i

3129
02:12:11,109 --> 02:12:09,040
actually first met john and jack by the

3130
02:12:13,750 --> 02:12:11,119
way in 2009

3131
02:12:15,430 --> 02:12:13,760
i was helping coordinate a lecture we

3132
02:12:17,109 --> 02:12:15,440
were bringing stan romanek out to

3133
02:12:18,470 --> 02:12:17,119
southern california

3134
02:12:21,350 --> 02:12:18,480
and

3135
02:12:23,750 --> 02:12:21,360
we all had paranormal with that

3136
02:12:26,870 --> 02:12:23,760
we had these phone calls that he calls i

3137
02:12:30,629 --> 02:12:26,880
think aubry calls audrey calls where

3138
02:12:32,790 --> 02:12:30,639
it's a female computerized voice

3139
02:12:35,750 --> 02:12:32,800
and i had seven of those i recorded a

3140
02:12:38,550 --> 02:12:35,760
few of them now i know people might say

3141
02:12:39,910 --> 02:12:38,560
you know stan's case is is bogus and

3142
02:12:41,430 --> 02:12:39,920
those were fake

3143
02:12:44,390 --> 02:12:41,440
but i can tell you when i got those

3144
02:12:46,870 --> 02:12:44,400
calls my entire body just got

3145
02:12:49,189 --> 02:12:46,880
electrified something was different

3146
02:12:51,669 --> 02:12:49,199
about those phone calls

3147
02:12:57,910 --> 02:12:51,679
absolutely i get them all the time but

3148
02:13:00,470 --> 02:12:59,270
yeah that's a different kind of call oh

3149
02:13:02,870 --> 02:13:00,480
that's oh

3150
02:13:05,189 --> 02:13:02,880
that's not that's not an audrey call

3151
02:13:07,350 --> 02:13:05,199
um but when when these things happen and

3152
02:13:09,910 --> 02:13:07,360
they continue to happen

3153
02:13:13,910 --> 02:13:09,920
uh what do you what do you start to do

3154
02:13:16,790 --> 02:13:13,920
do you question yourself right

3155
02:13:19,350 --> 02:13:16,800
is am i going nuts

3156
02:13:21,669 --> 02:13:19,360
uh you know because we all have those

3157
02:13:24,470 --> 02:13:21,679
same thoughts

3158
02:13:25,750 --> 02:13:24,480
what do you do with that

3159
02:13:29,189 --> 02:13:25,760
well actually

3160
02:13:31,990 --> 02:13:29,199
it kind of uh verifies a lot of the when

3161
02:13:34,149 --> 02:13:32,000
i have interviewing experiencers and

3162
02:13:35,589 --> 02:13:34,159
people with this field

3163
02:13:38,069 --> 02:13:35,599
all of these things start clicking

3164
02:13:39,270 --> 02:13:38,079
together because i'm like okay well that

3165
02:13:40,950 --> 02:13:39,280
happened to that person and that

3166
02:13:42,149 --> 02:13:40,960
happened now it's starting to happen to

3167
02:13:44,790 --> 02:13:42,159
me

3168
02:13:47,669 --> 02:13:44,800
it's even to this day i'm having current

3169
02:13:49,109 --> 02:13:47,679
activity of things that i don't know why

3170
02:13:51,030 --> 02:13:49,119
it's happening

3171
02:13:53,109 --> 02:13:51,040
but it is just the other night i had

3172
02:13:55,189 --> 02:13:53,119
another dream where i was

3173
02:13:58,550 --> 02:13:55,199
they were in my head and i was laying

3174
02:14:00,390 --> 02:13:58,560
out on a table with other people and

3175
02:14:01,430 --> 02:14:00,400
these ets they looked human though they

3176
02:14:03,589 --> 02:14:01,440
didn't look

3177
02:14:05,830 --> 02:14:03,599
like i would expect

3178
02:14:07,510 --> 02:14:05,840
but the thought was all in my head right

3179
02:14:09,350 --> 02:14:07,520
here in the front of my head and i could

3180
02:14:11,910 --> 02:14:09,360
i don't understand

3181
02:14:13,589 --> 02:14:11,920
how that happened but

3182
02:14:14,790 --> 02:14:13,599
i don't know um

3183
02:14:17,189 --> 02:14:14,800
yeah

3184
02:14:19,350 --> 02:14:17,199
can i i'm going to bring up a recent

3185
02:14:21,350 --> 02:14:19,360
conversation um

3186
02:14:23,270 --> 02:14:21,360
uh that you and i had

3187
02:14:26,069 --> 02:14:23,280
i was um

3188
02:14:27,589 --> 02:14:26,079
everybody i was literally at a tommy's

3189
02:14:29,430 --> 02:14:27,599
drive-thru

3190
02:14:31,830 --> 02:14:29,440
and uh you remember the conversation

3191
02:14:33,990 --> 02:14:31,840
because we were talking chili burgers

3192
02:14:36,709 --> 02:14:34,000
and you were

3193
02:14:38,870 --> 02:14:36,719
um this was just recently too this is

3194
02:14:41,669 --> 02:14:38,880
what like three weeks ago uh maybe a

3195
02:14:44,229 --> 02:14:41,679
month ago and and you said jimmy i've

3196
02:14:47,189 --> 02:14:44,239
got i've got to tell you what happened

3197
02:14:49,030 --> 02:14:47,199
and you started to and then i cut you

3198
02:14:50,470 --> 02:14:49,040
off and i said i want to save this for

3199
02:14:52,470 --> 02:14:50,480
another time

3200
02:14:53,589 --> 02:14:52,480
right but you were with a couple of

3201
02:14:57,189 --> 02:14:53,599
friends

3202
02:14:59,910 --> 02:14:57,199
and you said that you weren't sure

3203
02:15:01,990 --> 02:14:59,920
but you think that the night before that

3204
02:15:05,669 --> 02:15:02,000
something may have happened and it had

3205
02:15:06,470 --> 02:15:05,679
to do with uh missing time

3206
02:15:08,390 --> 02:15:06,480
now

3207
02:15:10,950 --> 02:15:08,400
let's let's talk about that specific

3208
02:15:13,589 --> 02:15:10,960
experience there when

3209
02:15:16,709 --> 02:15:13,599
uh you're concerned you were excited on

3210
02:15:19,669 --> 02:15:16,719
the phone right okay there was that part

3211
02:15:21,990 --> 02:15:19,679
but you weren't sure

3212
02:15:24,310 --> 02:15:22,000
but take me through the events of that

3213
02:15:27,910 --> 02:15:24,320
evening for everybody and why you would

3214
02:15:30,310 --> 02:15:27,920
bring it up to me on the phone

3215
02:15:32,950 --> 02:15:30,320
i think that's the one i was recently in

3216
02:15:34,550 --> 02:15:32,960
the cottonwood area about four weeks ago

3217
02:15:36,550 --> 02:15:34,560
with two other people who are

3218
02:15:38,629 --> 02:15:36,560
experiencers

3219
02:15:41,109 --> 02:15:38,639
and one of my friends woke up the next

3220
02:15:43,589 --> 02:15:41,119
morning with some marks on her body

3221
02:15:45,430 --> 02:15:43,599
that i've seen before with photos

3222
02:15:47,270 --> 02:15:45,440
you know i know what to look for we

3223
02:15:48,470 --> 02:15:47,280
didn't have any of the uv lights where

3224
02:15:51,750 --> 02:15:48,480
you could actually

3225
02:15:53,510 --> 02:15:51,760
pick that up because supposedly when an

3226
02:15:56,069 --> 02:15:53,520
extraterrestrial maybe they grab your

3227
02:15:58,870 --> 02:15:56,079
wrist or part of your body

3228
02:16:01,990 --> 02:15:58,880
they leave a residual mark that can be

3229
02:16:04,470 --> 02:16:02,000
picked up with certain uv light

3230
02:16:05,750 --> 02:16:04,480
so that kind of started the conversation

3231
02:16:07,750 --> 02:16:05,760
um

3232
02:16:10,550 --> 02:16:07,760
then we all just began having you know

3233
02:16:13,109 --> 02:16:10,560
memories of well wait a minute uh last

3234
02:16:14,550 --> 02:16:13,119
night didn't you wake i woke up i know i

3235
02:16:17,030 --> 02:16:14,560
woke up with

3236
02:16:18,790 --> 02:16:17,040
having some really weird dreams

3237
02:16:20,149 --> 02:16:18,800
well then i find out that the other two

3238
02:16:21,830 --> 02:16:20,159
also did

3239
02:16:24,310 --> 02:16:21,840
i really don't remember the the missing

3240
02:16:26,629 --> 02:16:24,320
time part of it um

3241
02:16:30,310 --> 02:16:26,639
but it just leaves you with this feeling

3242
02:16:32,070 --> 02:16:30,320
of foreboding of oh my gosh something

3243
02:16:33,990 --> 02:16:32,080
really did happen it wasn't just me it

3244
02:16:37,110 --> 02:16:34,000
was the other two mm-hmm

3245
02:16:39,750 --> 02:16:37,120
and you know what do we what do we do

3246
02:16:43,589 --> 02:16:39,760
with experiencers

3247
02:16:45,429 --> 02:16:43,599
that that have this story to share with

3248
02:16:47,190 --> 02:16:45,439
the world and right now we're in the

3249
02:16:51,509 --> 02:16:47,200
middle of disclosure

3250
02:16:53,429 --> 02:16:51,519
and and it seems that the press and and

3251
02:16:55,830 --> 02:16:53,439
and capitol hill

3252
02:16:56,790 --> 02:16:55,840
want to focus on the military aspect of

3253
02:16:59,030 --> 02:16:56,800
this

3254
02:17:00,790 --> 02:16:59,040
when we have you know what could be

3255
02:17:02,309 --> 02:17:00,800
millions of people with these shared

3256
02:17:04,389 --> 02:17:02,319
experiences

3257
02:17:06,469 --> 02:17:04,399
and these voices aren't aren't

3258
02:17:09,110 --> 02:17:06,479
considered aren't heard

3259
02:17:11,030 --> 02:17:09,120
how do we deal with this

3260
02:17:13,429 --> 02:17:11,040
we get more projects out there and

3261
02:17:16,469 --> 02:17:13,439
that's that is really

3262
02:17:19,270 --> 02:17:16,479
where i want to do more um shows film or

3263
02:17:21,750 --> 02:17:19,280
television because the experiencer is

3264
02:17:23,830 --> 02:17:21,760
not talked about in a good light if they

3265
02:17:25,270 --> 02:17:23,840
are talked about they're ridiculed we

3266
02:17:26,790 --> 02:17:25,280
know that

3267
02:17:29,990 --> 02:17:26,800
so i actually i'm in development on

3268
02:17:31,750 --> 02:17:30,000
another project about experiencers

3269
02:17:33,830 --> 02:17:31,760
and they're all professionals in their

3270
02:17:35,110 --> 02:17:33,840
fields and you know attorneys and

3271
02:17:37,509 --> 02:17:35,120
doctors and

3272
02:17:38,549 --> 02:17:37,519
the mainstream people the normies as you

3273
02:17:40,549 --> 02:17:38,559
call them

3274
02:17:41,669 --> 02:17:40,559
they need to know this is happening to

3275
02:17:43,990 --> 02:17:41,679
people

3276
02:17:45,830 --> 02:17:44,000
and there are support groups out there

3277
02:17:47,349 --> 02:17:45,840
you know yvonne smith barbara lamb i

3278
02:17:49,349 --> 02:17:47,359
know there's opus there's so many

3279
02:17:51,990 --> 02:17:49,359
support groups kathleen martin

3280
02:17:53,910 --> 02:17:52,000
and that's wonderful but i don't know if

3281
02:17:56,469 --> 02:17:53,920
the general person who's having this

3282
02:17:58,070 --> 02:17:56,479
happen who's not sure what it is they

3283
02:17:59,589 --> 02:17:58,080
don't know what to do they're probably

3284
02:18:01,750 --> 02:17:59,599
gonna

3285
02:18:04,309 --> 02:18:01,760
start drinking more overeating or

3286
02:18:06,549 --> 02:18:04,319
whatever to be comforted

3287
02:18:09,110 --> 02:18:06,559
you know it's so that does bother me

3288
02:18:11,589 --> 02:18:09,120
about disclosure they never talk about

3289
02:18:13,030 --> 02:18:11,599
well who's flying that craft

3290
02:18:14,950 --> 02:18:13,040
and what are they doing they're just

3291
02:18:15,750 --> 02:18:14,960
worried about you know the technology of

3292
02:18:22,469 --> 02:18:15,760
it

3293
02:18:24,870 --> 02:18:22,479
but who's flying the craft

3294
02:18:27,349 --> 02:18:24,880
and what are they doing they are doing

3295
02:18:28,950 --> 02:18:27,359
things to people they're taking people

3296
02:18:30,549 --> 02:18:28,960
whether you're conscious of it or you're

3297
02:18:32,950 --> 02:18:30,559
not conscious of it

3298
02:18:34,309 --> 02:18:32,960
and i believe personally that it's a

3299
02:18:36,629 --> 02:18:34,319
large

3300
02:18:39,990 --> 02:18:36,639
percentage of our population that it's

3301
02:18:43,349 --> 02:18:40,000
happening to now how much of it uh do

3302
02:18:46,950 --> 02:18:43,359
you keep inside of yourself uh in that

3303
02:18:49,750 --> 02:18:46,960
you don't discuss it and you know uh

3304
02:18:52,469 --> 02:18:49,760
that you haven't discussed it but you're

3305
02:18:55,110 --> 02:18:52,479
you're with an another experiencer

3306
02:18:56,709 --> 02:18:55,120
and you hear that little nugget that

3307
02:19:00,709 --> 02:18:56,719
only you know

3308
02:19:01,429 --> 02:19:00,719
and then somebody else verbalizes it

3309
02:19:05,589 --> 02:19:01,439
and

3310
02:19:07,669 --> 02:19:05,599
how often does that happen

3311
02:19:09,190 --> 02:19:07,679
it happens a lot it's happening more and

3312
02:19:11,190 --> 02:19:09,200
more

3313
02:19:13,030 --> 02:19:11,200
because okay our last film was about the

3314
02:19:16,070 --> 02:19:13,040
hybridization program

3315
02:19:18,070 --> 02:19:16,080
in my mind i'm thinking logistically oh

3316
02:19:20,549 --> 02:19:18,080
they're only going to take women who are

3317
02:19:23,669 --> 02:19:20,559
of child bearing years well

3318
02:19:25,830 --> 02:19:23,679
i am not in those on those years anymore

3319
02:19:27,429 --> 02:19:25,840
but i'm having more activity now

3320
02:19:30,469 --> 02:19:27,439
so i don't understand that i thought

3321
02:19:32,150 --> 02:19:30,479
they really were just taking us for our

3322
02:19:34,709 --> 02:19:32,160
seed

3323
02:19:36,309 --> 02:19:34,719
so when that happens um

3324
02:19:37,750 --> 02:19:36,319
i want to talk about it more and more

3325
02:19:39,589 --> 02:19:37,760
because

3326
02:19:42,469 --> 02:19:39,599
i used to be the outsider i just thought

3327
02:19:43,509 --> 02:19:42,479
i was the researcher looking into this

3328
02:19:45,750 --> 02:19:43,519
but

3329
02:19:48,389 --> 02:19:45,760
as the years have gone on with dreams

3330
02:19:49,670 --> 02:19:48,399
and awake encounters i'm no longer that

3331
02:19:52,870 --> 02:19:49,680
outsider

3332
02:19:55,910 --> 02:19:52,880
i'm just any member of a support group

3333
02:19:59,030 --> 02:19:55,920
it could be any member now um i i want

3334
02:20:01,270 --> 02:19:59,040
to uh to talk about some sightings and

3335
02:20:04,150 --> 02:20:01,280
uh of yours and there's a reason for

3336
02:20:06,790 --> 02:20:04,160
this um your your father

3337
02:20:09,429 --> 02:20:06,800
uh you come from an aviation family

3338
02:20:11,429 --> 02:20:09,439
and you know aircraft

3339
02:20:12,150 --> 02:20:11,439
you know aircraft that's that's what you

3340
02:20:14,309 --> 02:20:12,160
do

3341
02:20:15,190 --> 02:20:14,319
that's that's one of your hobbies

3342
02:20:20,389 --> 02:20:15,200
and

3343
02:20:22,950 --> 02:20:20,399
that is not part of

3344
02:20:24,389 --> 02:20:22,960
your your family's background in

3345
02:20:26,630 --> 02:20:24,399
aviation

3346
02:20:27,429 --> 02:20:26,640
right you you know what you're looking

3347
02:20:31,190 --> 02:20:27,439
at

3348
02:20:33,590 --> 02:20:31,200
craft in the sky

3349
02:20:35,030 --> 02:20:33,600
and you knew it wasn't

3350
02:20:37,910 --> 02:20:35,040
uh

3351
02:20:39,510 --> 02:20:37,920
an f-14 right

3352
02:20:42,070 --> 02:20:39,520
an f-16

3353
02:20:43,670 --> 02:20:42,080
or a helicopter

3354
02:20:46,309 --> 02:20:43,680
what went through your mind because you

3355
02:20:48,150 --> 02:20:46,319
know the difference

3356
02:20:49,429 --> 02:20:48,160
well the very first time i was actually

3357
02:20:53,429 --> 02:20:49,439
in sedona

3358
02:20:56,070 --> 02:20:53,439
on a ufo tour with tom dongo

3359
02:20:58,309 --> 02:20:56,080
and two other couples and my husband

3360
02:20:59,910 --> 02:20:58,319
and we were looking over the mountains

3361
02:21:02,550 --> 02:20:59,920
of jerome

3362
02:21:04,309 --> 02:21:02,560
and by god this object showed up it was

3363
02:21:06,950 --> 02:21:04,319
oblong

3364
02:21:08,469 --> 02:21:06,960
and what really blew me away is as i

3365
02:21:10,710 --> 02:21:08,479
asked everyone

3366
02:21:12,790 --> 02:21:10,720
let's say out loud for this object to

3367
02:21:15,510 --> 02:21:12,800
move to the right or to the left

3368
02:21:18,230 --> 02:21:15,520
we all did it in unison and that object

3369
02:21:20,710 --> 02:21:18,240
moved accordingly to what we were asking

3370
02:21:23,110 --> 02:21:20,720
multiple times and then other ones came

3371
02:21:24,870 --> 02:21:23,120
up behind it they weren't moving in

3372
02:21:27,830 --> 02:21:24,880
trajectory of an airplane or a

3373
02:21:30,389 --> 02:21:27,840
helicopter or a satellite by the way the

3374
02:21:31,590 --> 02:21:30,399
first thing i do is i get my my little

3375
02:21:33,670 --> 02:21:31,600
star app

3376
02:21:35,429 --> 02:21:33,680
if i see something in the sky at night

3377
02:21:37,270 --> 02:21:35,439
and i put that up there first to see

3378
02:21:39,270 --> 02:21:37,280
okay is there a star planet there that

3379
02:21:41,590 --> 02:21:39,280
i'm not aware of

3380
02:21:43,429 --> 02:21:41,600
yeah i always have to do that

3381
02:21:44,950 --> 02:21:43,439
because you want to be you want to be

3382
02:21:46,230 --> 02:21:44,960
skeptic right you don't want to say

3383
02:21:48,550 --> 02:21:46,240
every little thing

3384
02:21:50,150 --> 02:21:48,560
is a ufo

3385
02:21:53,670 --> 02:21:50,160
so you can tell the difference when they

3386
02:21:55,030 --> 02:21:53,680
make sharp turns and stop and start or

3387
02:21:56,630 --> 02:21:55,040
move in the direction that you're

3388
02:21:59,910 --> 02:21:56,640
requesting

3389
02:22:02,950 --> 02:21:59,920
that's an unidentified object that is to

3390
02:22:04,870 --> 02:22:02,960
me having some kind of a thought

3391
02:22:06,950 --> 02:22:04,880
connection with me

3392
02:22:08,469 --> 02:22:06,960
i can't explain how but

3393
02:22:11,349 --> 02:22:08,479
and take me through that moment in

3394
02:22:14,230 --> 02:22:11,359
sedona because i know uh what went

3395
02:22:16,070 --> 02:22:14,240
through my mind the first time that i

3396
02:22:18,630 --> 02:22:16,080
was out with a group of people and i saw

3397
02:22:21,349 --> 02:22:18,640
something crazy right i've seen things

3398
02:22:23,349 --> 02:22:21,359
by myself that's different

3399
02:22:25,429 --> 02:22:23,359
but when you have that moment that

3400
02:22:27,910 --> 02:22:25,439
paradigm shift right

3401
02:22:30,630 --> 02:22:27,920
and and you're out there with dongo and

3402
02:22:32,710 --> 02:22:30,640
a group of people and you see an oblong

3403
02:22:34,790 --> 02:22:32,720
saucer-shaped craft

3404
02:22:36,870 --> 02:22:34,800
uh

3405
02:22:38,630 --> 02:22:36,880
you've got to start answering questions

3406
02:22:40,630 --> 02:22:38,640
inside of yourself

3407
02:22:43,270 --> 02:22:40,640
take me through that

3408
02:22:45,910 --> 02:22:43,280
no i was jumping up and down because my

3409
02:22:46,790 --> 02:22:45,920
husband was a non-believer

3410
02:22:49,590 --> 02:22:46,800
so

3411
02:22:52,469 --> 02:22:49,600
to show it to him i was like yeah

3412
02:22:53,910 --> 02:22:52,479
see i knew it i knew they're real and he

3413
02:22:55,270 --> 02:22:53,920
was speechless

3414
02:22:57,429 --> 02:22:55,280
just like the other couple they'd never

3415
02:22:59,590 --> 02:22:57,439
seen anything as well

3416
02:23:02,070 --> 02:22:59,600
so yeah you it just

3417
02:23:04,630 --> 02:23:02,080
it blows your mind and then puts you on

3418
02:23:06,710 --> 02:23:04,640
another notch of like okay i think they

3419
02:23:08,950 --> 02:23:06,720
are real and then the next thing that

3420
02:23:10,630 --> 02:23:08,960
happens like okay i think they really

3421
02:23:12,550 --> 02:23:10,640
are real

3422
02:23:13,910 --> 02:23:12,560
but it's a personal thing i mean there

3423
02:23:16,070 --> 02:23:13,920
could have been some guy standing next

3424
02:23:20,150 --> 02:23:16,080
to us who saw and said no no no that was

3425
02:23:22,469 --> 02:23:20,160
the iss or you know that was a satellite

3426
02:23:24,230 --> 02:23:22,479
but we all saw it together as a group

3427
02:23:26,710 --> 02:23:24,240
and it truly

3428
02:23:29,830 --> 02:23:26,720
it shook everybody there including dongo

3429
02:23:32,469 --> 02:23:29,840
i can tell you i remember uh our mutual

3430
02:23:34,790 --> 02:23:32,479
friend steve morello this is about ten

3431
02:23:35,670 --> 02:23:34,800
years ago eight years ago

3432
02:23:38,070 --> 02:23:35,680
and

3433
02:23:39,670 --> 02:23:38,080
he was telling me the story about the

3434
02:23:42,870 --> 02:23:39,680
first time

3435
02:23:45,990 --> 02:23:42,880
he went out with somebody that said

3436
02:23:48,710 --> 02:23:46,000
he could communicate with a laser right

3437
02:23:49,910 --> 02:23:48,720
and so steve's like oh come on right

3438
02:23:52,630 --> 02:23:49,920
whatever

3439
02:23:54,950 --> 02:23:52,640
and uh so they go out and he's like see

3440
02:23:57,429 --> 02:23:54,960
that watch this flip flip flip with the

3441
02:24:00,070 --> 02:23:57,439
laser three times and it flashes back

3442
02:24:01,429 --> 02:24:00,080
three times does it once it flashes one

3443
02:24:04,070 --> 02:24:01,439
and steve said i can't believe give me

3444
02:24:06,550 --> 02:24:04,080
the laser right so he's doing it and

3445
02:24:09,270 --> 02:24:06,560
he's having this this moment that

3446
02:24:11,429 --> 02:24:09,280
paradigm shift right but i'm listening

3447
02:24:15,510 --> 02:24:11,439
to steve's story

3448
02:24:18,790 --> 02:24:15,520
and i'm going come on come on man

3449
02:24:20,870 --> 02:24:18,800
and and then i go out and do it

3450
02:24:22,630 --> 02:24:20,880
and when you when you actually when you

3451
02:24:25,190 --> 02:24:22,640
go through like you're saying right when

3452
02:24:27,830 --> 02:24:25,200
you're when you're actually there

3453
02:24:29,750 --> 02:24:27,840
and and you expect and then and and i

3454
02:24:31,670 --> 02:24:29,760
have to go back and think about all

3455
02:24:32,630 --> 02:24:31,680
those stories that i've heard over the

3456
02:24:34,790 --> 02:24:32,640
years

3457
02:24:36,870 --> 02:24:34,800
where i'm rolling my eyes

3458
02:24:38,870 --> 02:24:36,880
right really i mean it's one thing to

3459
02:24:43,429 --> 02:24:38,880
see you know but but when it when it

3460
02:24:45,590 --> 02:24:43,439
goes that step over the line right

3461
02:24:48,710 --> 02:24:45,600
where you're just like come on

3462
02:24:50,790 --> 02:24:48,720
and then you experience it yourself i

3463
02:24:52,469 --> 02:24:50,800
think that is unbelievable and you walk

3464
02:24:55,030 --> 02:24:52,479
away from that just going well man i

3465
02:24:57,910 --> 02:24:55,040
gotta listen to everybody now

3466
02:24:59,990 --> 02:24:57,920
that's right right right yeah

3467
02:25:02,790 --> 02:25:00,000
i mean i had another experience just

3468
02:25:06,389 --> 02:25:02,800
this june i was in north carolina

3469
02:25:08,790 --> 02:25:06,399
at a mutual friend of ours chris bledsoe

3470
02:25:11,030 --> 02:25:08,800
and uh we were in the backyard and he is

3471
02:25:13,270 --> 02:25:11,040
one of those people who can call him in

3472
02:25:15,990 --> 02:25:13,280
okay stop right there stop right there

3473
02:25:17,990 --> 02:25:16,000
are you talking about the video that i

3474
02:25:21,590 --> 02:25:18,000
saw of you

3475
02:25:24,070 --> 02:25:21,600
commenting about the the red orb coming

3476
02:25:25,750 --> 02:25:24,080
down

3477
02:25:28,309 --> 02:25:25,760
didn't see that video but it sounds like

3478
02:25:31,030 --> 02:25:28,319
it yeah they were red yeah i mean i'm

3479
02:25:33,110 --> 02:25:31,040
listening to your your comments

3480
02:25:35,429 --> 02:25:33,120
i'm not going to repeat that i'm not

3481
02:25:39,429 --> 02:25:35,439
going to repeat them now on the air

3482
02:25:41,429 --> 02:25:39,439
but but holy crap right right

3483
02:25:43,670 --> 02:25:41,439
i have never seen anything like that we

3484
02:25:45,830 --> 02:25:43,680
were not looking in the sky

3485
02:25:47,429 --> 02:25:45,840
we were looking in the trees right in

3486
02:25:49,670 --> 02:25:47,439
front of us

3487
02:25:52,070 --> 02:25:49,680
his yard kind of like it's like a

3488
02:25:55,030 --> 02:25:52,080
cul-de-sac it dead ends and has all

3489
02:25:57,510 --> 02:25:55,040
these tall trees in the shape of a big u

3490
02:26:00,870 --> 02:25:57,520
like a cul-de-sac okay

3491
02:26:03,429 --> 02:26:00,880
we start uh doing his thing chris is

3492
02:26:04,950 --> 02:26:03,439
praying and doing his intentions and how

3493
02:26:08,150 --> 02:26:04,960
he connects

3494
02:26:10,309 --> 02:26:08,160
we start seeing these red orbs in the

3495
02:26:12,070 --> 02:26:10,319
trees at different heights

3496
02:26:14,710 --> 02:26:12,080
multiple ones

3497
02:26:17,030 --> 02:26:14,720
five feet high 20 feet high then they

3498
02:26:19,510 --> 02:26:17,040
start coming closer to us

3499
02:26:21,429 --> 02:26:19,520
literally they were coming closer i put

3500
02:26:23,670 --> 02:26:21,439
my hands behind my back

3501
02:26:25,429 --> 02:26:23,680
and just in my mind i said touch my

3502
02:26:28,309 --> 02:26:25,439
hands

3503
02:26:30,870 --> 02:26:28,319
literally 60 seconds later chris jumps

3504
02:26:32,550 --> 02:26:30,880
up oh something just touched my hands

3505
02:26:35,190 --> 02:26:32,560
so it didn't touch me

3506
02:26:37,349 --> 02:26:35,200
but it touched his hands

3507
02:26:39,190 --> 02:26:37,359
i honestly that that kind of changed my

3508
02:26:42,550 --> 02:26:39,200
life in a way of

3509
02:26:43,750 --> 02:26:42,560
like what what reality are we in

3510
02:26:45,030 --> 02:26:43,760
are we

3511
02:26:46,550 --> 02:26:45,040
it just blows your mind where you just

3512
02:26:47,670 --> 02:26:46,560
go okay i don't know i don't know

3513
02:26:49,510 --> 02:26:47,680
anything now

3514
02:26:52,070 --> 02:26:49,520
all i know is i want to see it again i

3515
02:26:52,870 --> 02:26:52,080
want to go back and see and experience

3516
02:26:57,510 --> 02:26:52,880
them

3517
02:26:59,510 --> 02:26:57,520
20 or so

3518
02:27:02,710 --> 02:26:59,520
not up there again not in the sky but

3519
02:27:04,550 --> 02:27:02,720
right in front of us yeah so um somebody

3520
02:27:06,630 --> 02:27:04,560
sends me the video

3521
02:27:08,550 --> 02:27:06,640
and i don't know that you're in it right

3522
02:27:09,990 --> 02:27:08,560
i just know your voice that's what took

3523
02:27:12,309 --> 02:27:10,000
me by surprise

3524
02:27:14,309 --> 02:27:12,319
but i'm watching the red orb it's right

3525
02:27:15,750 --> 02:27:14,319
above the trees it's off in the distance

3526
02:27:17,750 --> 02:27:15,760
and it's coming down and you're

3527
02:27:21,030 --> 02:27:17,760
describing what's happening

3528
02:27:22,230 --> 02:27:21,040
um in a very excited way

3529
02:27:24,070 --> 02:27:22,240
and uh

3530
02:27:26,389 --> 02:27:24,080
that's lori wagner

3531
02:27:28,550 --> 02:27:26,399
and i picked up the phone and i go have

3532
02:27:30,710 --> 02:27:28,560
you seen this video of you and chris

3533
02:27:32,309 --> 02:27:30,720
bledsoe tell me about it

3534
02:27:34,630 --> 02:27:32,319
and i

3535
02:27:36,389 --> 02:27:34,640
what i saw in that video is

3536
02:27:39,830 --> 02:27:36,399
unexplainable

3537
02:27:41,830 --> 02:27:39,840
and you were having your mind completely

3538
02:27:43,670 --> 02:27:41,840
blown at that moment

3539
02:27:46,469 --> 02:27:43,680
that was a real video that was a real

3540
02:27:47,349 --> 02:27:46,479
object and you were standing right there

3541
02:27:51,990 --> 02:27:47,359
right

3542
02:27:54,790 --> 02:27:52,000
love it you enjoy it

3543
02:27:56,630 --> 02:27:54,800
it's fun it's like what life is about

3544
02:27:58,389 --> 02:27:56,640
life is about having fun and having

3545
02:28:00,389 --> 02:27:58,399
these experiences

3546
02:28:02,230 --> 02:28:00,399
not being on your phone in your computer

3547
02:28:04,309 --> 02:28:02,240
and you know your head down it's about

3548
02:28:06,230 --> 02:28:04,319
being outside and really living these

3549
02:28:07,910 --> 02:28:06,240
experiences because i think

3550
02:28:10,630 --> 02:28:07,920
that if we did that more i think they

3551
02:28:13,190 --> 02:28:10,640
would show up more i really do

3552
02:28:16,950 --> 02:28:13,200
well um i i've got some good news and

3553
02:28:21,110 --> 02:28:18,710
it's not going to end here we're going

3554
02:28:23,670 --> 02:28:21,120
to continue after this break we're going

3555
02:28:26,550 --> 02:28:23,680
to continue this conversation this is

3556
02:28:29,830 --> 02:28:26,560
the world premiere of lori wagner on the

3557
02:28:33,349 --> 02:28:29,840
world premiere night for extraordinary

3558
02:28:36,150 --> 02:28:33,359
the revelations the film is by j3 films

3559
02:28:38,790 --> 02:28:36,160
now called j3 with an l

3560
02:28:41,270 --> 02:28:38,800
and this is a pretty exciting night uh

3561
02:28:42,870 --> 02:28:41,280
for you lori and and it's exciting for

3562
02:28:45,110 --> 02:28:42,880
me so i'm going to celebrate with you

3563
02:28:46,710 --> 02:28:45,120
some more after this short break

3564
02:28:49,110 --> 02:28:46,720
sounds good are you down

3565
02:28:50,790 --> 02:28:49,120
are you down yeah absolutely i love that

3566
02:28:53,349 --> 02:28:50,800
smile let's take our break right here

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02:28:55,910 --> 02:28:53,359
this is fade to black i am your host

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02:28:58,469 --> 02:28:55,920
jimmy church this is a great night now

3569
02:29:01,030 --> 02:28:58,479
the links for the film are below we have

3570
02:29:03,270 --> 02:29:01,040
them throughout social media you can now

3571
02:29:05,750 --> 02:29:03,280
watch the film and i want everybody to

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02:29:07,590 --> 02:29:05,760
do it after this uh

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02:29:09,510 --> 02:29:07,600
show tonight of fade to black i'm here

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with jimmy church we'll be right back

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stay with us

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3650
02:33:42,950 --> 02:33:41,270
welcome back fade to black i am your

3651
02:33:46,230 --> 02:33:42,960
host jimmy church what a great night on

3652
02:33:48,389 --> 02:33:46,240
the show because we are celebrating

3653
02:33:51,110 --> 02:33:48,399
the premiere of extraordinary the

3654
02:33:52,710 --> 02:33:51,120
revelations it's worldwide premiere is

3655
02:33:54,950 --> 02:33:52,720
today and tonight

3656
02:33:57,750 --> 02:33:54,960
so after the show everybody go and watch

3657
02:34:02,550 --> 02:33:57,760
the film it's an excellent film and

3658
02:34:06,070 --> 02:34:02,560
uh i was asked to narrate uh this film

3659
02:34:09,429 --> 02:34:06,080
and uh it's it's such an honor and for

3660
02:34:13,190 --> 02:34:09,439
me it was a bucket list for me to go in

3661
02:34:14,790 --> 02:34:13,200
and and narrate um i love robert

3662
02:34:17,510 --> 02:34:14,800
clotworthy and

3663
02:34:20,150 --> 02:34:17,520
and peter coyote and and some of these

3664
02:34:21,510 --> 02:34:20,160
greats uh that that go out there and do

3665
02:34:23,190 --> 02:34:21,520
this i thought man

3666
02:34:26,870 --> 02:34:23,200
one day

3667
02:34:28,710 --> 02:34:26,880
and uh when the team over at j3 uh

3668
02:34:32,309 --> 02:34:28,720
approached me and said hey

3669
02:34:33,429 --> 02:34:32,319
i said absolutely and what i didn't know

3670
02:34:35,030 --> 02:34:33,439
uh

3671
02:34:38,710 --> 02:34:35,040
at the time was

3672
02:34:40,950 --> 02:34:38,720
uh how much work uh it goes into uh

3673
02:34:44,630 --> 02:34:40,960
narrating a film number one

3674
02:34:47,349 --> 02:34:44,640
and number two the appreciation of those

3675
02:34:49,910 --> 02:34:47,359
that that get it done all the time but

3676
02:34:51,910 --> 02:34:49,920
uh somehow i pulled it off and so when

3677
02:34:54,469 --> 02:34:51,920
you watch the film tonight

3678
02:34:55,349 --> 02:34:54,479
think about my nervousness and going

3679
02:34:57,270 --> 02:34:55,359
through

3680
02:34:58,950 --> 02:34:57,280
and and doing this film now we're going

3681
02:35:02,389 --> 02:34:58,960
into overtime tonight

3682
02:35:04,790 --> 02:35:02,399
and uh laurie wagner is with us and and

3683
02:35:06,230 --> 02:35:04,800
lori uh before the break and i again i

3684
02:35:09,190 --> 02:35:06,240
want to thank you and

3685
02:35:13,510 --> 02:35:09,200
and the team over at j3 for inviting me

3686
02:35:15,190 --> 02:35:13,520
in uh to this uh what a moment for me

3687
02:35:17,750 --> 02:35:15,200
personally and

3688
02:35:21,510 --> 02:35:17,760
and my nervousness uh

3689
02:35:24,790 --> 02:35:21,520
was alleviated because john did uh

3690
02:35:27,590 --> 02:35:24,800
john and patrick did an amazing job

3691
02:35:29,429 --> 02:35:27,600
at uh editing the film and the way that

3692
02:35:32,870 --> 02:35:29,439
it is put together not only

3693
02:35:35,270 --> 02:35:32,880
um is it is it the music and the editing

3694
02:35:39,429 --> 02:35:35,280
and the titles and the graphics

3695
02:35:41,670 --> 02:35:39,439
uh but it's so cinematic in its approach

3696
02:35:43,510 --> 02:35:41,680
and and i just sit back and go wow wow

3697
02:35:46,389 --> 02:35:43,520
this is something that

3698
02:35:49,590 --> 02:35:46,399
uh is at the level of what the world

3699
02:35:52,070 --> 02:35:49,600
expects today from production because uh

3700
02:35:54,389 --> 02:35:52,080
uh production is something that has

3701
02:35:56,389 --> 02:35:54,399
gotten really really good

3702
02:35:57,270 --> 02:35:56,399
you can have all the message that you

3703
02:35:59,110 --> 02:35:57,280
want

3704
02:36:01,750 --> 02:35:59,120
but you have to have something that is

3705
02:36:04,309 --> 02:36:01,760
uh eye candy too as well and i think you

3706
02:36:06,870 --> 02:36:04,319
guys knocked it out of the park

3707
02:36:09,510 --> 02:36:06,880
thank you so much and your voice over

3708
02:36:10,550 --> 02:36:09,520
your narration really fit this project

3709
02:36:13,349 --> 02:36:10,560
so well

3710
02:36:15,429 --> 02:36:13,359
we were so excited when you said yes

3711
02:36:18,710 --> 02:36:15,439
so we're just we're so stoked this whole

3712
02:36:20,389 --> 02:36:18,720
project has come to together and

3713
02:36:23,110 --> 02:36:20,399
you know it's a great team that's what

3714
02:36:25,270 --> 02:36:23,120
production is it's a team i remember uh

3715
02:36:27,510 --> 02:36:25,280
man this is a long time ago you and i

3716
02:36:30,309 --> 02:36:27,520
were talking on the phone

3717
02:36:32,870 --> 02:36:30,319
when uh everybody said yes right i said

3718
02:36:34,550 --> 02:36:32,880
lori i'm gonna narrate this thing man i

3719
02:36:36,710 --> 02:36:34,560
can't believe it

3720
02:36:38,870 --> 02:36:36,720
uh little did i know how much work was

3721
02:36:41,429 --> 02:36:38,880
uh gonna go into it

3722
02:36:44,630 --> 02:36:41,439
and uh but yeah yeah in the end i think

3723
02:36:47,190 --> 02:36:44,640
uh it was uh it was really well done and

3724
02:36:49,030 --> 02:36:47,200
you guys you guys made me sound really

3725
02:36:50,389 --> 02:36:49,040
good and i'm just gonna say that right

3726
02:36:52,870 --> 02:36:50,399
now it's magic

3727
02:36:55,910 --> 02:36:52,880
magic in the editing um we were talking

3728
02:37:00,469 --> 02:36:55,920
about chris bledsoe uh before the break

3729
02:37:02,230 --> 02:37:00,479
and you um have had a long relationship

3730
02:37:04,230 --> 02:37:02,240
with chris and

3731
02:37:07,270 --> 02:37:04,240
and i remember you and i talking about

3732
02:37:08,469 --> 02:37:07,280
him oh man it's been a couple of years

3733
02:37:09,830 --> 02:37:08,479
uh

3734
02:37:12,550 --> 02:37:09,840
when we first started those

3735
02:37:13,429 --> 02:37:12,560
conversations and there was a lot of

3736
02:37:19,429 --> 02:37:13,439
uh

3737
02:37:21,190 --> 02:37:19,439
i guess secret may be the right word in

3738
02:37:22,309 --> 02:37:21,200
that the community was talking about

3739
02:37:24,790 --> 02:37:22,319
chris

3740
02:37:27,590 --> 02:37:24,800
but there was some other stuff that was

3741
02:37:30,070 --> 02:37:27,600
going on in the background uh with chris

3742
02:37:32,870 --> 02:37:30,080
that we know more about it today

3743
02:37:34,870 --> 02:37:32,880
but that is the government and agencies

3744
02:37:37,990 --> 02:37:34,880
were really interested

3745
02:37:41,030 --> 02:37:38,000
in in chris why do you think that that

3746
02:37:46,630 --> 02:37:43,510
well that's a big question because

3747
02:37:49,429 --> 02:37:46,640
his case is so different than

3748
02:37:50,950 --> 02:37:49,439
because of that you've got nasa

3749
02:37:52,630 --> 02:37:50,960
cia

3750
02:37:54,389 --> 02:37:52,640
fbi you've got

3751
02:37:55,830 --> 02:37:54,399
all these agencies

3752
02:37:58,469 --> 02:37:55,840
why

3753
02:38:00,070 --> 02:37:58,479
um i have my own beliefs about it and

3754
02:38:02,230 --> 02:38:00,080
one of them i'm not going to share

3755
02:38:04,070 --> 02:38:02,240
because it does involve

3756
02:38:06,790 --> 02:38:04,080
his his case

3757
02:38:08,230 --> 02:38:06,800
and a certain angelic being that has

3758
02:38:10,630 --> 02:38:08,240
come to him

3759
02:38:12,469 --> 02:38:10,640
in awake times this was not a dream this

3760
02:38:15,190 --> 02:38:12,479
was not through regression this was

3761
02:38:18,389 --> 02:38:15,200
actually an awake moment

3762
02:38:21,030 --> 02:38:18,399
um they are looking for things that

3763
02:38:22,550 --> 02:38:21,040
chris knows that's why i think they are

3764
02:38:24,309 --> 02:38:22,560
coming around him

3765
02:38:26,070 --> 02:38:24,319
they're in awe of him too just as

3766
02:38:27,910 --> 02:38:26,080
regular people

3767
02:38:32,309 --> 02:38:27,920
you know he's he's working with these

3768
02:38:34,309 --> 02:38:32,319
agencies uh different ones still today

3769
02:38:35,670 --> 02:38:34,319
you know i just i can't go into too much

3770
02:38:37,270 --> 02:38:35,680
because

3771
02:38:39,270 --> 02:38:37,280
that's not for me to say that's for

3772
02:38:40,550 --> 02:38:39,280
chris to say

3773
02:38:42,469 --> 02:38:40,560
i'm sorry i don't want to sound like

3774
02:38:45,910 --> 02:38:42,479
that but it's true i don't want to

3775
02:38:48,150 --> 02:38:45,920
expose some things sure sure but um i

3776
02:38:51,429 --> 02:38:48,160
think that we can all

3777
02:38:53,349 --> 02:38:51,439
kind of deduce right and and and put

3778
02:38:55,590 --> 02:38:53,359
this through a filter

3779
02:38:57,910 --> 02:38:55,600
and come out the other side with well

3780
02:39:01,349 --> 02:38:57,920
that's because there's foundation to

3781
02:39:04,309 --> 02:39:01,359
this there's a reality to his case

3782
02:39:05,910 --> 02:39:04,319
that they wouldn't be interested if it

3783
02:39:07,110 --> 02:39:05,920
was

3784
02:39:10,150 --> 02:39:07,120
bs

3785
02:39:12,389 --> 02:39:10,160
right if it was j if he was hulk seeing

3786
02:39:14,870 --> 02:39:12,399
this you know the big word right

3787
02:39:18,230 --> 02:39:14,880
um and i think that is the conclusion

3788
02:39:20,309 --> 02:39:18,240
that most of us have to come to

3789
02:39:22,389 --> 02:39:20,319
i agree with that um

3790
02:39:24,790 --> 02:39:22,399
and even now he has a really good night

3791
02:39:26,550 --> 02:39:24,800
vision psyonix camera so he is he's

3792
02:39:29,030 --> 02:39:26,560
gathering more proof

3793
02:39:31,750 --> 02:39:29,040
with the orbs now we don't know exactly

3794
02:39:34,469 --> 02:39:31,760
who or what orbs are

3795
02:39:36,309 --> 02:39:34,479
chris has his own theory about it

3796
02:39:38,790 --> 02:39:36,319
uh he i think he believes that they are

3797
02:39:41,190 --> 02:39:38,800
they're actually the the beans the

3798
02:39:42,790 --> 02:39:41,200
vehicles for the beans now you see an

3799
02:39:44,309 --> 02:39:42,800
orb and it's small it could be the size

3800
02:39:46,469 --> 02:39:44,319
of a baseball or the size of a

3801
02:39:48,550 --> 02:39:46,479
basketball how can a bean be in

3802
02:39:51,190 --> 02:39:48,560
something that little

3803
02:39:53,110 --> 02:39:51,200
because they defy what we know

3804
02:39:55,750 --> 02:39:53,120
for our science

3805
02:39:59,190 --> 02:39:55,760
uh and just his whole case

3806
02:40:01,110 --> 02:39:59,200
is so incredible it's so layered

3807
02:40:02,630 --> 02:40:01,120
um

3808
02:40:04,309 --> 02:40:02,640
i wish he was here that he could you

3809
02:40:06,070 --> 02:40:04,319
know throw out some things that that's

3810
02:40:07,750 --> 02:40:06,080
happening but i don't think he

3811
02:40:09,830 --> 02:40:07,760
understands

3812
02:40:11,670 --> 02:40:09,840
well i agree there's it's just like la

3813
02:40:13,910 --> 02:40:11,680
said like we don't really know for sure

3814
02:40:16,469 --> 02:40:13,920
what's happening if somebody does tell

3815
02:40:19,269 --> 02:40:16,479
you definitively what's happening run

3816
02:40:22,469 --> 02:40:19,279
the other way because nobody knows

3817
02:40:24,630 --> 02:40:22,479
really what's going on now the um

3818
02:40:27,510 --> 02:40:24,640
original uh

3819
02:40:28,550 --> 02:40:27,520
the origin story to chris

3820
02:40:31,670 --> 02:40:28,560
um

3821
02:40:32,469 --> 02:40:31,680
i think that i personally

3822
02:40:35,349 --> 02:40:32,479
uh

3823
02:40:38,630 --> 02:40:35,359
absolutely put an e.t component to this

3824
02:40:39,590 --> 02:40:38,640
he saw a craft out in the field right

3825
02:40:44,150 --> 02:40:39,600
uh

3826
02:40:48,150 --> 02:40:44,160
the his his son his his coworkers

3827
02:40:49,670 --> 02:40:48,160
um there was uh contact with with beings

3828
02:40:53,429 --> 02:40:49,680
in the forest

3829
02:40:55,030 --> 02:40:53,439
um and that if we look at the genesis of

3830
02:40:57,190 --> 02:40:55,040
everything right there

3831
02:41:01,429 --> 02:40:57,200
it appears to be

3832
02:41:04,309 --> 02:41:01,439
an et visitation um on his then property

3833
02:41:05,429 --> 02:41:04,319
that is following him to this day

3834
02:41:08,070 --> 02:41:05,439
do you

3835
02:41:11,349 --> 02:41:08,080
still subscribe to that that there is an

3836
02:41:13,429 --> 02:41:11,359
uh that this is e.t in origin or are we

3837
02:41:15,030 --> 02:41:13,439
talking about something else that just

3838
02:41:17,190 --> 02:41:15,040
exists

3839
02:41:19,990 --> 02:41:17,200
on this planet

3840
02:41:22,950 --> 02:41:20,000
oh it exists on other it's not just this

3841
02:41:25,030 --> 02:41:22,960
planet uh it's extraterrestrial

3842
02:41:29,110 --> 02:41:25,040
but it's angelic

3843
02:41:31,910 --> 02:41:29,120
it's really angelic when chris prays

3844
02:41:34,950 --> 02:41:31,920
or uses his intention he's praying to

3845
02:41:37,510 --> 02:41:34,960
god because he he he's a believer

3846
02:41:41,510 --> 02:41:37,520
so he is praying to god but yet these

3847
02:41:42,870 --> 02:41:41,520
e.t show up what we would consider et's

3848
02:41:44,950 --> 02:41:42,880
so where

3849
02:41:46,950 --> 02:41:44,960
that just leaves you hanging right there

3850
02:41:48,710 --> 02:41:46,960
it's happened to myself as well i have

3851
02:41:50,550 --> 02:41:48,720
had

3852
02:41:54,309 --> 02:41:50,560
a few situations where i was praying to

3853
02:41:56,309 --> 02:41:54,319
god but i was in my a really deep dark

3854
02:41:59,110 --> 02:41:56,319
moment in my life

3855
02:42:00,950 --> 02:41:59,120
and extraterrestrials showed up

3856
02:42:02,950 --> 02:42:00,960
that blew my mind i thought wait a

3857
02:42:04,950 --> 02:42:02,960
minute where are the angels

3858
02:42:07,349 --> 02:42:04,960
and these e.t show up and they actually

3859
02:42:10,070 --> 02:42:07,359
helped the situation

3860
02:42:14,550 --> 02:42:10,080
i don't even know where to go with that

3861
02:42:16,309 --> 02:42:14,560
angels extraterrestrials is it all one

3862
02:42:18,870 --> 02:42:16,319
i don't know i don't know the answers

3863
02:42:20,630 --> 02:42:18,880
obviously but

3864
02:42:22,469 --> 02:42:20,640
they're there they're they're listening

3865
02:42:25,910 --> 02:42:22,479
to you when you call out to them just

3866
02:42:28,550 --> 02:42:25,920
like when you pray to god or to an angel

3867
02:42:30,950 --> 02:42:28,560
sometimes with certain people

3868
02:42:32,389 --> 02:42:30,960
extraterrestrials show up

3869
02:42:34,550 --> 02:42:32,399
in a good way i'm not saying it's a

3870
02:42:38,870 --> 02:42:34,560
nefarious way it's a good way

3871
02:42:40,790 --> 02:42:38,880
now um when we talk about that we i

3872
02:42:43,349 --> 02:42:40,800
shall wait a minute here i got way ahead

3873
02:42:46,550 --> 02:42:43,359
of my skis when chris

3874
02:42:47,910 --> 02:42:46,560
talks about the lady

3875
02:42:48,870 --> 02:42:47,920
we

3876
02:42:51,349 --> 02:42:48,880
uh

3877
02:42:54,790 --> 02:42:51,359
we are jumping to

3878
02:42:56,550 --> 02:42:54,800
right the virgin mary or

3879
02:42:59,990 --> 02:42:56,560
where these

3880
02:43:02,550 --> 02:43:00,000
um uh these experiences have happened

3881
02:43:03,670 --> 02:43:02,560
throughout time it chris isn't unique to

3882
02:43:08,469 --> 02:43:03,680
this

3883
02:43:11,269 --> 02:43:08,479
but are are we talking about

3884
02:43:13,190 --> 02:43:11,279
the virgin mary is is that what is going

3885
02:43:14,469 --> 02:43:13,200
on because you know you know he steps

3886
02:43:16,950 --> 02:43:14,479
back from that

3887
02:43:19,590 --> 02:43:16,960
and and i understand why

3888
02:43:23,910 --> 02:43:19,600
but is is ultimately

3889
02:43:25,750 --> 02:43:23,920
uh what chris has been seeing and

3890
02:43:26,950 --> 02:43:25,760
communicating with

3891
02:43:30,230 --> 02:43:26,960
is this

3892
02:43:32,870 --> 02:43:30,240
the virgin mary that has been appearing

3893
02:43:34,309 --> 02:43:32,880
throughout time

3894
02:43:36,389 --> 02:43:34,319
it could be

3895
02:43:39,190 --> 02:43:36,399
but i believe i don't believe it is and

3896
02:43:42,230 --> 02:43:39,200
i don't believe chris believes it is

3897
02:43:43,910 --> 02:43:42,240
because there's a hierarchy with angelic

3898
02:43:46,309 --> 02:43:43,920
beans

3899
02:43:49,750 --> 02:43:46,319
i really i've heard him say he doesn't

3900
02:43:51,110 --> 02:43:49,760
believe it's the it's the virgin mary

3901
02:43:53,910 --> 02:43:51,120
um

3902
02:43:56,550 --> 02:43:53,920
i have had an experience with her myself

3903
02:43:59,670 --> 02:43:56,560
what wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

3904
02:44:01,750 --> 02:43:59,680
okay pump the brakes

3905
02:44:05,110 --> 02:44:01,760
you're just revealing this to me now

3906
02:44:07,269 --> 02:44:05,120
live on the air

3907
02:44:09,670 --> 02:44:07,279
yeah okay all right

3908
02:44:11,990 --> 02:44:09,680
okay let's let's go what what are you

3909
02:44:15,110 --> 02:44:12,000
talking about what happened

3910
02:44:17,990 --> 02:44:15,120
2015 it was around easter

3911
02:44:21,190 --> 02:44:18,000
i woke up from this dream i was crying

3912
02:44:22,710 --> 02:44:21,200
because i woke up this beautiful woman

3913
02:44:26,150 --> 02:44:22,720
now let me say this

3914
02:44:30,230 --> 02:44:26,160
before this dream i had not seen

3915
02:44:32,790 --> 02:44:30,240
the artist rendering that doug all did

3916
02:44:34,469 --> 02:44:32,800
of the lady i hadn't seen it yet

3917
02:44:38,150 --> 02:44:34,479
so i wake up

3918
02:44:40,710 --> 02:44:38,160
it's uh 2015 like i said easter

3919
02:44:42,550 --> 02:44:40,720
and this beautiful she had blonde hair

3920
02:44:44,630 --> 02:44:42,560
down to her shoulder she had a white

3921
02:44:47,429 --> 02:44:44,640
gown with gold

3922
02:44:50,150 --> 02:44:47,439
threading through the gown and there was

3923
02:44:52,070 --> 02:44:50,160
a female on either side of her

3924
02:44:53,510 --> 02:44:52,080
and she just looked at me she did not

3925
02:44:56,309 --> 02:44:53,520
say anything

3926
02:44:59,190 --> 02:44:56,319
but it was this unconditional love

3927
02:45:00,790 --> 02:44:59,200
and out of her heart area the heart

3928
02:45:02,790 --> 02:45:00,800
center

3929
02:45:04,309 --> 02:45:02,800
it was it was almost like being at a

3930
02:45:05,990 --> 02:45:04,319
concert when you're standing too close

3931
02:45:08,230 --> 02:45:06,000
to the speakers i could feel it

3932
02:45:10,309 --> 02:45:08,240
physically this boom boom boom between

3933
02:45:12,710 --> 02:45:10,319
her heart and my heart

3934
02:45:15,429 --> 02:45:12,720
and i just cried and cried it was like

3935
02:45:17,510 --> 02:45:15,439
in my mind it was like looking at god

3936
02:45:18,389 --> 02:45:17,520
now this was physical this wasn't a

3937
02:45:23,750 --> 02:45:18,399
dream

3938
02:45:26,630 --> 02:45:23,760
i woke up right out of it oh i got you

3939
02:45:28,710 --> 02:45:26,640
okay crying because i just saw her i

3940
02:45:31,269 --> 02:45:28,720
didn't know who she was right fast

3941
02:45:32,630 --> 02:45:31,279
forward two months from then i was on

3942
02:45:33,830 --> 02:45:32,640
facebook

3943
02:45:36,150 --> 02:45:33,840
and i see

3944
02:45:38,469 --> 02:45:36,160
this artist rendering that doug alde

3945
02:45:40,230 --> 02:45:38,479
made it's a beautiful painting

3946
02:45:42,790 --> 02:45:40,240
of the lady and i looked at the

3947
02:45:45,269 --> 02:45:42,800
description i said no no no i just that

3948
02:45:49,750 --> 02:45:45,279
is the woman who was in my dream exactly

3949
02:45:52,150 --> 02:45:49,760
exactly the hair the eyes the white gown

3950
02:45:55,190 --> 02:45:52,160
i don't i can't explain it jimmy i just

3951
02:45:57,190 --> 02:45:55,200
know that that is what i experienced

3952
02:45:59,510 --> 02:45:57,200
there was some other parts of that dream

3953
02:46:00,630 --> 02:45:59,520
that i don't wish to share publicly but

3954
02:46:03,349 --> 02:46:00,640
um

3955
02:46:06,230 --> 02:46:03,359
it was the same angelic being that chris

3956
02:46:07,590 --> 02:46:06,240
describes as the lady

3957
02:46:10,150 --> 02:46:07,600
so

3958
02:46:13,990 --> 02:46:10,160
the

3959
02:46:15,030 --> 02:46:14,000
italy

3960
02:46:16,389 --> 02:46:15,040
right

3961
02:46:18,950 --> 02:46:16,399
in this

3962
02:46:21,670 --> 02:46:18,960
is is pretty apparent too

3963
02:46:25,190 --> 02:46:21,680
um diana pasulka uh

3964
02:46:27,750 --> 02:46:25,200
is is very interested in this of course

3965
02:46:29,990 --> 02:46:27,760
uh not only her book but uh her

3966
02:46:32,230 --> 02:46:30,000
connections back to the vatican

3967
02:46:33,910 --> 02:46:32,240
and and she's a professor and this is

3968
02:46:35,110 --> 02:46:33,920
what she studies

3969
02:46:35,910 --> 02:46:35,120
um

3970
02:46:39,429 --> 02:46:35,920
uh

3971
02:46:40,710 --> 02:46:39,439
what do you think that the vatican has

3972
02:46:41,990 --> 02:46:40,720
to say

3973
02:46:44,230 --> 02:46:42,000
about

3974
02:46:46,230 --> 02:46:44,240
chris bledsoe

3975
02:46:48,469 --> 02:46:46,240
i think the vatican has a lot to say

3976
02:46:50,309 --> 02:46:48,479
about chris if they were to ever

3977
02:46:53,349 --> 02:46:50,319
speak about it obviously they will never

3978
02:46:55,910 --> 02:46:53,359
speak about it they know who he is

3979
02:46:56,360 --> 02:46:55,920
i i know that for sure

3980
02:46:57,750 --> 02:46:56,370
um

3981
02:47:00,469 --> 02:46:57,760
[Music]

3982
02:47:02,469 --> 02:47:00,479
i'm not sure if they would be happy to

3983
02:47:04,710 --> 02:47:02,479
explore that idea

3984
02:47:07,510 --> 02:47:04,720
because the vatican i'm sorry but i just

3985
02:47:09,750 --> 02:47:07,520
think it's it's a lot of secrets

3986
02:47:12,389 --> 02:47:09,760
especially down in the basement

3987
02:47:14,630 --> 02:47:12,399
which is where certain people have been

3988
02:47:16,070 --> 02:47:14,640
to get information

3989
02:47:17,510 --> 02:47:16,080
i would think that they would want to

3990
02:47:18,790 --> 02:47:17,520
shut that down

3991
02:47:21,190 --> 02:47:18,800
personally

3992
02:47:23,349 --> 02:47:21,200
they would probably want to shut down

3993
02:47:26,150 --> 02:47:23,359
this idea because like you said do we

3994
02:47:27,670 --> 02:47:26,160
think it's the mother mary virgin mary

3995
02:47:29,830 --> 02:47:27,680
possibly

3996
02:47:31,429 --> 02:47:29,840
so what does that mean to a catholic

3997
02:47:33,590 --> 02:47:31,439
priest if you're saying

3998
02:47:35,349 --> 02:47:33,600
this angelic being who may look like an

3999
02:47:38,710 --> 02:47:35,359
e.t to you but it's looking like an

4000
02:47:41,269 --> 02:47:38,720
angelic being to this person chris

4001
02:47:42,790 --> 02:47:41,279
what does that say about religion

4002
02:47:44,710 --> 02:47:42,800
you know la is the perfect person to

4003
02:47:47,590 --> 02:47:44,720
bring into this discussion well i think

4004
02:47:48,870 --> 02:47:47,600
he was pretty pretty pretty obvious

4005
02:47:51,429 --> 02:47:48,880
about

4006
02:47:54,150 --> 02:47:51,439
uh all of this where he thinks that it's

4007
02:47:55,750 --> 02:47:54,160
it's purely supernatural that this is

4008
02:47:58,230 --> 02:47:55,760
something that we have to absolutely

4009
02:48:00,150 --> 02:47:58,240
consider that this is supernatural

4010
02:48:02,790 --> 02:48:00,160
and and look into the definition of

4011
02:48:05,910 --> 02:48:02,800
supernatural in case uh you have any

4012
02:48:08,230 --> 02:48:05,920
questions about that but but la is is

4013
02:48:11,990 --> 02:48:08,240
okay and he's a biblical scholar that

4014
02:48:14,950 --> 02:48:12,000
guy can quote any any page of the older

4015
02:48:17,110 --> 02:48:14,960
new testament uh with authority

4016
02:48:19,510 --> 02:48:17,120
but to bring in the supernatural aspect

4017
02:48:21,349 --> 02:48:19,520
to this of the

4018
02:48:23,830 --> 02:48:21,359
uh the lady

4019
02:48:27,670 --> 02:48:23,840
chris hasn't revealed a whole lot

4020
02:48:28,630 --> 02:48:27,680
um uh ryan i think is a little bit more

4021
02:48:31,030 --> 02:48:28,640
vocal

4022
02:48:34,070 --> 02:48:31,040
uh about this um but

4023
02:48:36,790 --> 02:48:34,080
but that uh there were certain

4024
02:48:39,830 --> 02:48:36,800
certain visions of the future that were

4025
02:48:41,910 --> 02:48:39,840
relayed over to chris and

4026
02:48:45,349 --> 02:48:41,920
and and this is something that he has to

4027
02:48:47,510 --> 02:48:45,359
hold inside of himself right

4028
02:48:49,710 --> 02:48:47,520
right because he feels if he were to

4029
02:48:51,910 --> 02:48:49,720
release some of that he would have the

4030
02:48:55,030 --> 02:48:51,920
responsibilities you know what if it

4031
02:48:56,870 --> 02:48:55,040
happens or what if it doesn't happen but

4032
02:48:58,790 --> 02:48:56,880
what if everyone prepares for something

4033
02:49:00,950 --> 02:48:58,800
and it doesn't happen and i know that

4034
02:49:03,030 --> 02:49:00,960
chris isn't the only experiencer who is

4035
02:49:04,790 --> 02:49:03,040
having visions like this

4036
02:49:06,309 --> 02:49:04,800
there are many who are brought on board

4037
02:49:08,150 --> 02:49:06,319
a craft and they're seeing this big

4038
02:49:12,150 --> 02:49:08,160
monitor and they're showing

4039
02:49:15,110 --> 02:49:12,160
cataclysmic disasters on this planet

4040
02:49:17,190 --> 02:49:15,120
in hopes i think to have us really

4041
02:49:19,750 --> 02:49:17,200
clean up our act i think that was the

4042
02:49:22,870 --> 02:49:19,760
inspiration for it now uh

4043
02:49:26,389 --> 02:49:22,880
this information is going through

4044
02:49:30,389 --> 02:49:26,399
uh these agencies and and making itself

4045
02:49:32,790 --> 02:49:30,399
back into the system of of washington dc

4046
02:49:34,950 --> 02:49:32,800
are they are they doing something with

4047
02:49:37,030 --> 02:49:34,960
this information and certainly chris

4048
02:49:39,269 --> 02:49:37,040
can't be the only one

4049
02:49:41,670 --> 02:49:39,279
uh that they are in contact with and

4050
02:49:45,110 --> 02:49:41,680
there has to be

4051
02:49:46,389 --> 02:49:45,120
another component inside of of the

4052
02:49:48,950 --> 02:49:46,399
beltway

4053
02:49:51,510 --> 02:49:48,960
that is aware of this tom delong

4054
02:49:53,110 --> 02:49:51,520
mentioned this very directly on this

4055
02:49:54,550 --> 02:49:53,120
program

4056
02:49:56,230 --> 02:49:54,560
four years ago

4057
02:49:57,830 --> 02:49:56,240
where he said that

4058
02:50:00,150 --> 02:49:57,840
there are

4059
02:50:02,630 --> 02:50:00,160
people inside of uh the department of

4060
02:50:05,590 --> 02:50:02,640
defense that absolutely put

4061
02:50:07,190 --> 02:50:05,600
a religious connection to this and you

4062
02:50:11,190 --> 02:50:07,200
need to be careful with what you're

4063
02:50:15,830 --> 02:50:13,910
well that's interesting because

4064
02:50:18,070 --> 02:50:15,840
what does he mean by that you have to be

4065
02:50:19,349 --> 02:50:18,080
careful what and i've heard that from

4066
02:50:21,750 --> 02:50:19,359
tom myself

4067
02:50:24,230 --> 02:50:21,760
i live in the same town he works in

4068
02:50:25,510 --> 02:50:24,240
i mean i've met him several times and

4069
02:50:28,550 --> 02:50:25,520
talked about it but usually what's

4070
02:50:31,830 --> 02:50:28,560
coming in from his direction is

4071
02:50:36,630 --> 02:50:31,840
they are a threat

4072
02:50:39,269 --> 02:50:36,640
you really knew what was going on

4073
02:50:41,670 --> 02:50:39,279
like okay well i don't totally agree

4074
02:50:43,349 --> 02:50:41,680
with that i think we have a balance here

4075
02:50:45,030 --> 02:50:43,359
it's they're not just all good they're

4076
02:50:46,950 --> 02:50:45,040
not just all bad

4077
02:50:48,950 --> 02:50:46,960
it's just like humans i don't understand

4078
02:50:51,590 --> 02:50:48,960
when people jump on these camps of

4079
02:50:52,950 --> 02:50:51,600
either side that makes no sense to me at

4080
02:50:54,790 --> 02:50:52,960
all right

4081
02:50:56,469 --> 02:50:54,800
uh you know but the religious

4082
02:50:59,910 --> 02:50:56,479
connotation

4083
02:51:01,990 --> 02:50:59,920
just like la again said about obama

4084
02:51:04,630 --> 02:51:02,000
what does he know

4085
02:51:07,110 --> 02:51:04,640
about the religious connection to

4086
02:51:09,190 --> 02:51:07,120
off-planet beings

4087
02:51:13,590 --> 02:51:09,200
you know we might really be shook if

4088
02:51:18,309 --> 02:51:14,389
right

4089
02:51:21,670 --> 02:51:18,319
well and and and and uh la brings up a

4090
02:51:23,030 --> 02:51:21,680
really good point one that i absolutely

4091
02:51:23,910 --> 02:51:23,040
agree with

4092
02:51:27,269 --> 02:51:23,920
is

4093
02:51:28,150 --> 02:51:27,279
we're using words probably incorrectly

4094
02:51:30,630 --> 02:51:28,160
here

4095
02:51:33,910 --> 02:51:30,640
right that religious is the wrong word

4096
02:51:36,630 --> 02:51:33,920
to use religion is the wrong word to use

4097
02:51:41,910 --> 02:51:38,870
it's a word that we have

4098
02:51:43,990 --> 02:51:41,920
but it may not be what we are talking

4099
02:51:46,389 --> 02:51:44,000
about because religion to everybody else

4100
02:51:48,870 --> 02:51:46,399
on the planet means a very specific

4101
02:51:49,830 --> 02:51:48,880
thing and we're tying in religion to

4102
02:51:52,790 --> 02:51:49,840
this

4103
02:51:54,630 --> 02:51:52,800
when it's probably not the right word

4104
02:51:56,550 --> 02:51:54,640
i don't know what the right word is

4105
02:51:57,590 --> 02:51:56,560
right i i don't know

4106
02:51:59,750 --> 02:51:57,600
and

4107
02:52:01,750 --> 02:51:59,760
have you ever felt threatened have you

4108
02:52:03,190 --> 02:52:01,760
ever felt scared

4109
02:52:05,269 --> 02:52:03,200
absolutely

4110
02:52:06,550 --> 02:52:05,279
i've been attacked energetically

4111
02:52:08,630 --> 02:52:06,560
spiritually

4112
02:52:10,710 --> 02:52:08,640
i deal with a lot of different people

4113
02:52:12,309 --> 02:52:10,720
when i'm you know doing a new project

4114
02:52:14,790 --> 02:52:12,319
i'm calling people

4115
02:52:16,630 --> 02:52:14,800
emailing texting and i've learned with

4116
02:52:18,870 --> 02:52:16,640
certain people

4117
02:52:21,510 --> 02:52:18,880
that i can't be on the phone for some

4118
02:52:23,030 --> 02:52:21,520
reason being on a phone call

4119
02:52:24,309 --> 02:52:23,040
if it's a certain i've had it with

4120
02:52:25,990 --> 02:52:24,319
different people

4121
02:52:29,910 --> 02:52:26,000
where i get attacked and when i get

4122
02:52:32,469 --> 02:52:29,920
attacked uh all of my senses just

4123
02:52:34,630 --> 02:52:32,479
i get shaky

4124
02:52:36,870 --> 02:52:34,640
i get kind of this out of it feeling and

4125
02:52:39,110 --> 02:52:36,880
it's not coming from me

4126
02:52:40,790 --> 02:52:39,120
so i've learned when it comes to certain

4127
02:52:43,030 --> 02:52:40,800
categories

4128
02:52:44,870 --> 02:52:43,040
only do email or text with the people

4129
02:52:47,269 --> 02:52:44,880
that i'm you know i'm looking for uh

4130
02:52:49,110 --> 02:52:47,279
participating in a project

4131
02:52:50,070 --> 02:52:49,120
i have been attacked

4132
02:52:53,190 --> 02:52:50,080
uh

4133
02:52:54,710 --> 02:52:53,200
from what looked like a demonic creature

4134
02:52:57,269 --> 02:52:54,720
several times

4135
02:52:59,349 --> 02:52:57,279
that one blew me away because i had just

4136
02:53:01,670 --> 02:52:59,359
come from a very peaceful

4137
02:53:04,070 --> 02:53:01,680
uh event with some friends who were in

4138
02:53:05,750 --> 02:53:04,080
this field and we left that evening kind

4139
02:53:06,630 --> 02:53:05,760
of doing a prayer and it was like this

4140
02:53:09,269 --> 02:53:06,640
whole

4141
02:53:11,510 --> 02:53:09,279
you know great thing and i get home

4142
02:53:14,389 --> 02:53:11,520
and i have a cross

4143
02:53:16,630 --> 02:53:14,399
on my wall right where my bed is

4144
02:53:18,630 --> 02:53:16,640
but this thing i woke up with this

4145
02:53:20,230 --> 02:53:18,640
demonic creature

4146
02:53:23,030 --> 02:53:20,240
right there

4147
02:53:24,870 --> 02:53:23,040
um i don't want to describe him but

4148
02:53:26,950 --> 02:53:24,880
it's happened twice

4149
02:53:28,230 --> 02:53:26,960
and i was so confused i'm like wait i

4150
02:53:30,309 --> 02:53:28,240
have a cross

4151
02:53:32,389 --> 02:53:30,319
right here i'm you know right there how

4152
02:53:34,469 --> 02:53:32,399
could you be coming here and i just

4153
02:53:37,510 --> 02:53:34,479
start saying prayers and

4154
02:53:39,990 --> 02:53:37,520
you know eventually it goes away but

4155
02:53:42,469 --> 02:53:40,000
i have been scared i've been scratched

4156
02:53:46,309 --> 02:53:42,479
like i said that was paranormal like i

4157
02:53:48,309 --> 02:53:46,319
mean my entire torso i have photos of it

4158
02:53:50,469 --> 02:53:48,319
were scratched up and down the house i

4159
02:53:53,990 --> 02:53:50,479
used to live in was just

4160
02:53:55,910 --> 02:53:54,000
paranormal activity on steroids

4161
02:54:01,910 --> 02:53:55,920
is there a connection

4162
02:54:03,349 --> 02:54:01,920
with paranormal activity and et contact

4163
02:54:05,190 --> 02:54:03,359
a hundred percent

4164
02:54:07,910 --> 02:54:05,200
goes hand in hand

4165
02:54:09,670 --> 02:54:07,920
i'm not sure why but it seems like

4166
02:54:10,870 --> 02:54:09,680
people who do have these encounters with

4167
02:54:13,030 --> 02:54:10,880
et's

4168
02:54:14,389 --> 02:54:13,040
also have paranormal activity in their

4169
02:54:16,630 --> 02:54:14,399
house whether it's a ghost they're

4170
02:54:18,790 --> 02:54:16,640
seeing objects moving

4171
02:54:20,870 --> 02:54:18,800
noises clanking doors opening and

4172
02:54:21,590 --> 02:54:20,880
shutting

4173
02:54:26,150 --> 02:54:21,600
it

4174
02:54:27,750 --> 02:54:26,160
and i think they share certain

4175
02:54:29,190 --> 02:54:27,760
frequencies

4176
02:54:30,710 --> 02:54:29,200
is my theory is that they're sharing

4177
02:54:32,469 --> 02:54:30,720
these cr they're kind of crossing over

4178
02:54:33,670 --> 02:54:32,479
each other or maybe they attract each

4179
02:54:35,910 --> 02:54:33,680
other

4180
02:54:39,429 --> 02:54:35,920
i am recently

4181
02:54:41,510 --> 02:54:39,439
shared some photos of us

4182
02:54:43,990 --> 02:54:41,520
at this petro

4183
02:54:45,349 --> 02:54:44,000
petroglyph site in

4184
02:54:46,630 --> 02:54:45,359
nevada

4185
02:54:49,030 --> 02:54:46,640
and

4186
02:54:51,910 --> 02:54:49,040
when i went through with this group of

4187
02:54:53,910 --> 02:54:51,920
friends and we're looking at i i i know

4188
02:54:56,309 --> 02:54:53,920
i'm not an anthropologist

4189
02:54:57,590 --> 02:54:56,319
i i don't know what i'm looking at but i

4190
02:54:59,990 --> 02:54:57,600
could tell

4191
02:55:01,670 --> 02:55:00,000
that there was a story here that's what

4192
02:55:04,309 --> 02:55:01,680
i felt like i felt like there was there

4193
02:55:06,630 --> 02:55:04,319
was some communication i just didn't

4194
02:55:08,070 --> 02:55:06,640
know what there were a few things there

4195
02:55:10,950 --> 02:55:08,080
that stood out

4196
02:55:11,830 --> 02:55:10,960
i found out later uh which i shared with

4197
02:55:14,469 --> 02:55:11,840
you

4198
02:55:17,030 --> 02:55:14,479
um as i did the research into it and i

4199
02:55:21,510 --> 02:55:17,040
know that you did too that this is a

4200
02:55:23,349 --> 02:55:21,520
creation story done in three parts right

4201
02:55:26,070 --> 02:55:23,359
and i stepped back and i went of course

4202
02:55:27,990 --> 02:55:26,080
that that that is that there

4203
02:55:31,590 --> 02:55:28,000
but this was done

4204
02:55:34,630 --> 02:55:31,600
uh over a thousand years ago

4205
02:55:35,750 --> 02:55:34,640
and you have all of this

4206
02:55:38,630 --> 02:55:35,760
stuff

4207
02:55:42,389 --> 02:55:38,640
on these walls that

4208
02:55:44,309 --> 02:55:42,399
ancient ancient man or woman

4209
02:55:46,469 --> 02:55:44,319
um here in north america could not have

4210
02:55:47,910 --> 02:55:46,479
known but yet it was there it was

4211
02:55:49,990 --> 02:55:47,920
clearly there

4212
02:55:51,670 --> 02:55:50,000
that information is coming from

4213
02:55:54,550 --> 02:55:51,680
somewhere isn't it i mean that

4214
02:55:56,309 --> 02:55:54,560
information is given to them

4215
02:55:58,309 --> 02:55:56,319
right because i was going to ask you who

4216
02:55:59,670 --> 02:55:58,319
do you think did that do you think it

4217
02:56:01,030 --> 02:55:59,680
was the

4218
02:56:02,870 --> 02:56:01,040
the tribes that were there the

4219
02:56:03,990 --> 02:56:02,880
indigenous tribes that were here so long

4220
02:56:05,670 --> 02:56:04,000
ago

4221
02:56:06,870 --> 02:56:05,680
that was coming through them or do you

4222
02:56:09,269 --> 02:56:06,880
think it was actually the

4223
02:56:11,110 --> 02:56:09,279
extraterrestrials or angelics that did

4224
02:56:13,190 --> 02:56:11,120
that yeah i mean

4225
02:56:16,070 --> 02:56:13,200
that's that's the perplexing question

4226
02:56:18,309 --> 02:56:16,080
because even the research at the

4227
02:56:19,510 --> 02:56:18,319
university level that went into that

4228
02:56:21,990 --> 02:56:19,520
site

4229
02:56:24,469 --> 02:56:22,000
where it was revealed that the mojave

4230
02:56:26,469 --> 02:56:24,479
indians don't lay claim

4231
02:56:29,349 --> 02:56:26,479
to those petroglyphs

4232
02:56:30,710 --> 02:56:29,359
right that and and so

4233
02:56:33,910 --> 02:56:30,720
it was

4234
02:56:35,429 --> 02:56:33,920
their ancestors ancestors of somebody

4235
02:56:37,670 --> 02:56:35,439
that did those petroglyphs and they

4236
02:56:41,190 --> 02:56:37,680
can't put a date on it uh the mojave

4237
02:56:43,590 --> 02:56:41,200
indians go back to 1100 a.d right a

4238
02:56:46,230 --> 02:56:43,600
thousand years ago but they'd

4239
02:56:47,349 --> 02:56:46,240
so the the petroglyphs are older than

4240
02:56:51,670 --> 02:56:47,359
that

4241
02:56:54,309 --> 02:56:51,680
where did those ancestors i mean here in

4242
02:56:58,070 --> 02:56:54,319
north america where are they getting

4243
02:57:00,080 --> 02:56:58,080
this information for a creation story

4244
02:57:02,230 --> 02:57:00,090
a creation story really

4245
02:57:03,910 --> 02:57:02,240
[Laughter]

4246
02:57:06,150 --> 02:57:03,920
it's the same thing as us right we're

4247
02:57:09,269 --> 02:57:06,160
having dreams we're having visitations

4248
02:57:11,349 --> 02:57:09,279
so i'm assuming they did as well yes it

4249
02:57:12,550 --> 02:57:11,359
was and that inspired them to do the

4250
02:57:14,550 --> 02:57:12,560
artwork

4251
02:57:16,469 --> 02:57:14,560
i can't wait to take you out to this

4252
02:57:18,710 --> 02:57:16,479
site because

4253
02:57:19,990 --> 02:57:18,720
uh there is a

4254
02:57:21,030 --> 02:57:20,000
method

4255
02:57:23,750 --> 02:57:21,040
to

4256
02:57:25,750 --> 02:57:23,760
uh through symbolism

4257
02:57:27,670 --> 02:57:25,760
of of telling this story and you can

4258
02:57:30,870 --> 02:57:27,680
feel it you can see it you can see the

4259
02:57:34,230 --> 02:57:30,880
progress you can see the story there

4260
02:57:35,269 --> 02:57:34,240
um it's it's fascinating how they knew

4261
02:57:38,150 --> 02:57:35,279
through

4262
02:57:39,910 --> 02:57:38,160
uh these pictures and and these symbols

4263
02:57:42,150 --> 02:57:39,920
that they were going to be able to tell

4264
02:57:43,670 --> 02:57:42,160
this story from beginning to end in

4265
02:57:46,950 --> 02:57:43,680
three chapters

4266
02:57:48,150 --> 02:57:46,960
and it's it's it's it's unbelievably

4267
02:57:49,590 --> 02:57:48,160
cool

4268
02:57:52,070 --> 02:57:49,600
yeah i can't wait to go there i mean

4269
02:57:53,910 --> 02:57:52,080
when you told me about the different um

4270
02:57:55,750 --> 02:57:53,920
pictures and symbols

4271
02:57:57,429 --> 02:57:55,760
it really was shocking because i've

4272
02:57:59,429 --> 02:57:57,439
never seen anything like that i saw it

4273
02:58:01,030 --> 02:57:59,439
online after you told me but

4274
02:58:03,830 --> 02:58:01,040
i really would love to go there bring

4275
02:58:05,030 --> 02:58:03,840
some cameras and night vision and maybe

4276
02:58:07,110 --> 02:58:05,040
even camp out i don't know if you're

4277
02:58:08,550 --> 02:58:07,120
allowed to camp out there but that'd be

4278
02:58:11,429 --> 02:58:08,560
cool oh man

4279
02:58:14,550 --> 02:58:11,439
you know and uh i want to thank you uh

4280
02:58:16,630 --> 02:58:14,560
we're we're at the end tonight uh for

4281
02:58:18,550 --> 02:58:16,640
for not only spending this time with us

4282
02:58:21,190 --> 02:58:18,560
but for doing what you do

4283
02:58:23,190 --> 02:58:21,200
making these films and and going out

4284
02:58:25,590 --> 02:58:23,200
there and and doing the research that

4285
02:58:27,590 --> 02:58:25,600
you do it's it's unbelievable your

4286
02:58:29,030 --> 02:58:27,600
commitment to this community lori thank

4287
02:58:33,830 --> 02:58:29,040
you

4288
02:58:35,750 --> 02:58:33,840
me and john and jack before and la all

4289
02:58:39,110 --> 02:58:35,760
of us related to the film and thank you

4290
02:58:43,190 --> 02:58:39,120
for your great contribution to this film

4291
02:58:45,510 --> 02:58:43,200
we can all you know together stop

4292
02:58:47,750 --> 02:58:45,520
really i really appreciate it you're

4293
02:58:51,110 --> 02:58:47,760
just you're so awesome and

4294
02:58:52,469 --> 02:58:51,120
um i'm happy this was my first show yeah

4295
02:58:57,110 --> 02:58:52,479
we got it done

4296
02:58:59,349 --> 02:58:57,120
through though um it's gonna be you and

4297
02:59:00,950 --> 02:58:59,359
i here in the bunker and we're just

4298
02:59:01,990 --> 02:59:00,960
gonna sit and chat

4299
02:59:05,110 --> 02:59:02,000
all right

4300
02:59:08,710 --> 02:59:05,120
you got it you got it lori wagner you're

4301
02:59:11,830 --> 02:59:08,720
amazing don't change thank you so much

4302
02:59:13,990 --> 02:59:11,840
thank you jimmy lori wagner again

4303
02:59:17,190 --> 02:59:14,000
tonight is the world premiere of two

4304
02:59:19,510 --> 02:59:17,200
things lori wagner on fade to black

4305
02:59:22,070 --> 02:59:19,520
and the world premiere for extraordinary

4306
02:59:24,630 --> 02:59:22,080
the revelations and you can go right now

4307
02:59:26,950 --> 02:59:24,640
and watch the film after this show

4308
02:59:30,070 --> 02:59:26,960
uh all of the links are up throughout

4309
02:59:32,630 --> 02:59:30,080
social media please check it out and uh

4310
02:59:34,150 --> 02:59:32,640
there you go i am going to

4311
02:59:36,870 --> 02:59:34,160
get straight to credits i want to thank

4312
02:59:38,469 --> 02:59:36,880
lori for doing overtime with me tonight

4313
02:59:40,230 --> 02:59:38,479
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4314
02:59:42,469 --> 02:59:40,240
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4315
02:59:45,590 --> 02:59:42,479
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4316
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4317
02:59:50,070 --> 02:59:47,920
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4318
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4319
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4320
02:59:59,429 --> 02:59:56,710
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4321
03:00:01,269 --> 02:59:59,439
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4322
03:00:03,590 --> 03:00:01,279
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4323
03:00:05,750 --> 03:00:03,600
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4324
03:00:07,670 --> 03:00:05,760
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4325
03:00:09,590 --> 03:00:07,680
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4326
03:00:11,190 --> 03:00:09,600
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4327
03:00:12,630 --> 03:00:11,200
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4328
03:00:14,710 --> 03:00:12,640
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4329
03:00:15,990 --> 03:00:14,720
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4330
03:00:18,630 --> 03:00:16,000
right here

4331
03:00:20,870 --> 03:00:18,640
william henry until tomorrow night i

4332
03:00:28,860 --> 03:00:20,880
want everybody to be safe